Let's get some things straight about Vayne

Omiwom·Jul 29, 2015·5 votes·438 views

She is short ranged. Her base auto attack range, 550, is on the generous side, but that's because every other marksman can either extend their auto attack range past 550, or has spells to affect the fight from over 550 range.
She has weak early game. Just trade with her. Be confident that you'll win. Unless she gets a wall pin she should have to back out of the trade before most other ADs. I see so many bot lanes afraid of her early who take hits without retaliating. You can't do this. If you play like this even will be op early.

Vayne is oppressive when she gets a lead, just like many other champions. But this should not be confused for being op. She's not oppressive at every stage of the game, which is when champs start needing a change.

3 Comments

EnosetcJul 29, 20153 votes

yeah, the "vayne's early game isn't weak" statement completely false.

what's making vayne a problem is the fact that bork is so ridiculously cost efficient and gives vayne every stat she wants, while being cheaper than infinity edge. it was also buffed recently. combine this with the fact that assassins have seen more nerfs than buffs lately and you'll see why she's problematic at the moment.

Angelofchaos16xJul 29, 20151 votes

Lucian says hi. And while yes you can shove her under turret, but then she can cs just fine unless she is a potato. And since vayne starts with Bork, she has no crit chance, but can sustain any poke she receives. 2.Everyone says that champs that are super at the late game, are punished during the early game and can be easily shut down (Kog , twitch etc). However of those champs Vaynes laning is the one that is least punished. Sure, if you force trades you should win, but she can get away from the trades she does not want to take (Knock back, tumble and invisible tumble post 6, if completely necessary). Kog on the other hand, has 0 escapes, twitch has 1 that is delayed by damage, and yet she scales just as well if not better then them, into the late game . That is my main problem with vayne, she is WAY to mobile for a adc the only other one that has many escapes as her is trist, that does considerable less damage. Everyone says that Kalista is the most mobile adc, but in reality, champs that have anything point click screw her, because she has zero reliable escapes. Lets use Maokai as a example. In a team fight, if Maokai uses twisted advance on Kalista, she is done for. However, Vayne could knock him back as soon as he comes up, she could tumble after and escape without taking to much damage. Most carries are SUPER team reliant to defend them, because except for a few that have 1 escape mechanic (Corki, Ez , Caitlyn ) or even 2 (Vayne or Trist), if caught out of position = they dead.

Cenobite AzazielJul 29, 20151 votes

The problem is that vayne is hard to punish. She can go in for that last hit because of her huge ass passive. If you trade and try to end the trade her passive, again, make it easier for her to punish you. If you try to engage, she can Q out of it and even condem you away or into a wall. Good luck diving her. Chasing her into to the jungle is a 100% stun. A displacement that can stun you for 2 seconds, depending on how far away you are from a wall. It is better than panteon stun. The base damage is higher, the stun is longer, scales on bonus AD and doubles if the target hit a wall.