Darius is overloaded, that's why most Darius mains don't have mechanics or game knowledge to play any other champ. Garen has crazy sustain, can be out of position and not get punished and also his silence is a nightmare for melee champs in teamfights because it can't really be avoided in teamfights and it lasts for too long. also his ult is just ridiculous, u can never 1v2 garen and his jungler even if ure ahead because of his ult
Critmaster Garen5 votesdont do drugs, kids.
Lulu Solo Only2 votesGaren is the new Mundo.
Heko The Man1 votes[{quoted}](name=Lulu Solo Only,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7AzH9avO,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-11T22:25:16.999+0000)
Garen is the new Mundo.
mundo does't have silence and his abilities cost HP silence is toxic
ImTheJuggernauty1 votesgaren also gets massively outscaled by mundo in every way except maybe a 1v1. Garen doesn't have a ranged spammable % hp slow. Garen doesn't have massive in fight sustain. List could go on, but point is that you lack the basic required ability to objectively compare strengths and weaknesses. Until you can, you will be incapable of convincing anyone of an opposing view that you are right.
Heko The Man1 votesgaren also gets massively outscaled by mundo in every way except maybe a 1v1. Garen doesn't have a ranged spammable % hp slow. Garen doesn't have massive in fight sustain. List could go on, but point is that you lack the basic required ability to objectively compare strengths and weaknesses. Until you can, you will be incapable of convincing anyone of an opposing view that you are right.
garen with ignite can easily win a lane vs mundo and snowball
ThisName1sDumb1 votes[{quoted}](name=Heko The Man,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7AzH9avO,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-13T06:35:33.307+0000)
garen with ignite can easily win a lane vs mundo and snowball
Yeah Mundo is definitely weaker early, if the Garen can't snowball though, Mundo will outscale in the end.
kda akali1 votesChampions for new players are okay, there are champions that are high skill cap and are balanced around high elo aswell. 
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Heko The Man2 votes[{quoted}](name=kda akali,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7AzH9avO,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-11T23:42:20.780+0000)
Champions for new players are okay, there are champions that are high skill cap and are balanced around high elo aswell.
ryze is a high skill cap? wut? i havent played ryze since 2014 but i remember that he used to be super easy smash keyboard champ that could burst people and build tanky they changed him that much?
kda akali1 votesHe is very good in high elo because of his root, he's balanced around it mostly. They are trying to rework him so that he isn't as balanced around high elo.
ImTheJuggernauty1 votesthis OP presents such compelling arguments....lmao So much detail and so many statistics to support his argument