nerf pyke

Heko The Man··61 votes·15,200 views

too many escapes, dashes, invisibility, cc and too much damage and resets

61 Comments

RaQqa20 votes

Nah, even if he is just impossible to catch, difficult to kill on mid, can easy penta kill in teamfight it's ok, it's not riven so boards won't help you. Remember nerf riven.

Tahminatrix 2 votes

Its nerf or nothing.

Tr4shB4NSYST3M7 votes

Why not nerf both?

The thigh guy13 votes

I’d be fine with ALL of that. Every bit of it. If he wasn’t immune to poke, and didn’t have up to 135 base fucking armor.

xAcidik2 votes

As a champion who quite literally cannot build HP?

The thigh guy3 votes

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As a champion who quite literally cannot build HP?

Not an excuse on a champion that is an assassin and shouldn’t be building up to begin with.

Heko The Man1 votes

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Not an excuse on a champion that is an assassin and shouldn’t be building up to begin with.

why he cant build hp?

Sir Saltarin1 votes

Have you readed his passive?

All the HP he buys is transfered into AD instead

Luther King Jr V2 votes

he could just buy ad items then but yeah

The thigh guy5 votes

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why he cant build hp?

He can. It just gets turned into ad. So it’s not that he can’t.

It’s the excuse people spam anytime anything is said about pyke ever.

Sillae2 votes

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As a champion who quite literally cannot build HP?

So? He's a support with as much nearly as much cc as Leona, with a stealth that gives a huge MS boost, ah and he takes back 60% of all damage dealt to him so you literally have to kill him several times over if he is ever out of sight (which he will be because of aforementioned stealth)... and with all those damn resistances.

The chain executes from a 60% health pyke that was bursted to 4% then went out of combat for 2 seconds to heal back to 60 is fun too. His passive is literally negating burst since it's recent damage.

Original Sin13 votes

They need to gut solo lane pyke. They also need to gut solo lane unbenched the kench

Heko The Man9 votes

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They need to gut solo lane pyke. They also need to gut solo lane unbenched the kench

Hecarim Pyke TahmKench top 3 champs that need nerfs

XJ999999999999992 votes

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Hecarim Pyke TahmKench top 3 champs that need nerfs

hec already got nerfed then conq got nerfed

Sir Saltarin2 votes

They need to gut solo lane pyke

Preach

Nea10411 votes

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too many escapes, dashes, invisibility, cc and too much damage and resets

You forget "insane sustain", which is the most absurd feature imho.

PavLoo8 votes

When you want Pyke to be nerfed, think about Tahm Top.

Heko The Man18 votes

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When you want Pyke to be nerfed, think about Tahm Top.

both need nerfs

Gubaguy1 votes

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both need nerfs

People bitch nonstop abotu how OP kench is... BUT NO ONE EVER BANS HIM. Stop bitching and ban if you have such a problem.

Heko The Man2 votes

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People bitch nonstop abotu how OP kench is... BUT NO ONE EVER BANS HIM. Stop bitching and ban if you have such a problem.

well you have only 1 ban. i can't ban tahm and leave hecarim open

General Esdeath 24 votes

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When you want Pyke to be nerfed, think about Tahm Top.

Almost like we can nerf 2 champs at once...

Glaricion1 votes

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Almost like we can nerf 2 champs at once...

I think they're saying that Riot might accidentally rebalance Pyke to somehow become a broken jungler or end up being a buff. The nerfs that were supposed to nerf Tahm support made him a much stronger solo laner.

Also, name two nerfs that happened in the same patch to two separate champions, I'll wait. ... Waited five seconds, that's right, you can't, get owned Esdeath!

General Esdeath 3 votes

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I think they're saying that Riot might accidentally rebalance Pyke to somehow become a broken jungler or end up being a buff. The nerfs that were supposed to nerf Tahm support made him a much stronger solo laner.

Also, name two nerfs that happened in the same patch to two separate champions, I'll wait. ... Waited five seconds, that's right, you can't, get owned Esdeath!

Patch 1.2

>:3

Glaricion3 votes

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Patch 1.2

>:3

You win this round Esdeath, but I'll be back, this won't be the last time you hear from me!

Dat Kat1 votes

Salute to that name!

General Esdeath 1 votes

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Salute to that name!

Thank you my friend!

ZackTheWaffleMan1 votes

mom says it's my turn on the nerf

General Esdeath 1 votes

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mom says it's my turn on the nerf

She said I get an extra turn because I cleaned the kitchen

Void Kaiju4 votes

He's already getting nerfed. Whiny, low-effort threads like this don't help your case at all though. There are legitimate things that had to be nerfed about him and I think you literally pointed out none of them.

nerf bard He has too many escapes, slows, burst, cc, and gets too op lategame with infinite scaling passive

^that took me 20 seconds. Bard is in no way OP, but low effort posts can make anything sound like the strongest thing in the game.

RaQqa1 votes

Where is his nerf at current patch? xd

Void Kaiju1 votes

presumably still in internal testing. They're looking to pull the heal off his passive entirely and move it to ranks in W.

xAcidik2 votes

I can't make myself understand the Pyke hate, I'll be honest. Especially when the figurehead for his class is Zed, one of the least punishable champions in this game. At least if Pyke commits his E to an all in he can't use it to escape lol.

And the hatred for solo lane Pyke is just because when people face him and expect it to be bad they get omega-stomped. Playing against Pyke the way you should by pushing and forcing him to struggle with his lack of waveclear as solo lane Pyke limiting his ability to roam, instead of constantly trying to all-in and trade with someone who has fairly decent sustain will yield much better results

Rewt6 votes

i mean.... pyke is pretty nuts. his main thing is that he can hang on the edge of a teamfight and chain execute. Zed (fuck zed) at least doesnt have resets.

(this all being said. Zed is fucking bs. Pyke is just annoying.)

TheÐarkMagician1 votes

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i mean.... pyke is pretty nuts. his main thing is that he can hang on the edge of a teamfight and chain execute. Zed (fuck zed) at least doesnt have resets.

(this all being said. Zed is fucking bs. Pyke is just annoying.)

It's true. He can chain execute providing your team has done 80% of the work on every enemy champion, and that the enemy didn't pick a single tank, or healer, or mage that can literally 1 shot him, or any cc, or any sticky champ, or a bruiser, someone with silence, or someone with a dash, or someone with an execute, or someone with...

Oh, there's literally dozens of ways to kill him.

"but we can't poke him down in lane"

No, that's his thing, the same way you can't Auto attack a level 2 Renekton to death with talon.

But you can shove him under tower and poke when he farms minions and can't lose vision to regain HP.

Pyke isn't broken. People just can't be bothered learning to play against him.

TheMan2922 votes

maybe make a delay on the ult? you can basically use it instantly. as for the passive, it can get very dumb

Thefrostyviking2 votes

What i find absolutely aggravating with pyke is how poke seems utterly useless on him.

You hit him for 300 outa his 1000 health while he hit you for 150-200, he then walks off for a few seconds and comes back missing like 100-150 health.

Then he repeats the trade from time to time, and you´re the one forced to leave to avoid him finishing with his ult.

How are you supposed to deal with this? You cant all in him because he´ll just dash away, poke gets regenerated and his all ins are usually lethal.

Over side man2 votes

I hate it when you do a lot of damage on Pyke and he comes back with most of his health back ugh.

Kristoph Gavin1 votes

First of all, a thread is bound to be good when it ignores all rules of common grammar and can't form proper sentences.

Now, you are complaining about a champion with too many escapes and too much damage, let's think about it.

Pyke has one dash which doubles as his engage and his main tool of crowd control. He has a camouflage which gets canceled immediately when he auto attacks or charges up his Q. Speaking of, he needs to charge his Q which makes the ability very telegraphed.

His entire gimmick is that he sacrifices actual tankiness as a melee support for damage since he can't get any HP outside of leveling up. The same reasoning goes for his ultimate, of course it resets, it's the big mechanic his build comes down to. He can be easily killed when he is hit by hard CC and your team doesn't consist of just monkeys and thinks far enough to kill the 1500HP target that can execute your entire team.

Heko The Man1 votes

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First of all, a thread is bound to be good when it ignores all rules of common grammar and can't form proper sentences.

WoW look this guy speaks english as a thrid language and he has poor grammar! you're genius!

The Kombinator1 votes

Love how popular these ideas are. With 0 constructive material. How would you change Pyke exactly?

I honestly would change 2 stuff.

  1. The pull should cost more mana. Something i would change for every champion with similar stuff.

  2. He should pay the mana upon starting the skill. So if he fails to use it or get interrupted, then PAY for it.

JuiceBoxP1 votes

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  1. He should pay the mana upon starting the skill. So if he fails to use it or get interrupted, then PAY for it.

It already works this way

The Kombinator1 votes

Well it doesn't seems that way, or just too low mana. I can interrupt his pull 100% of the time with E as Soraka, and even if i don't use any other skill i run out of mana faster.

I think all skills, that could easily lead into a kill combo should cost a lot. Back in the day Blitzcrank rank1 Q costed 110 mana. If you messed up 3 times a row, then you had to wait a long time before you were able to try again.

jng dif victim1 votes

Player base : Kayle is broken because of Kleptomancy Rune. base stats gets nerfed more and more till champion is unplayable Player base : Kennen is broken because of Kleptomancy and his E ms magic resist and armor gets nerfed and gets a bit squishy while hes untouchable anyways Player base : Vladimir is broken because of Phase Rush and so low cooldowns. his healing get reduced on minions

AND SAME SHIT FOR Riven Zed MasterYi Morgana Brand etc ...

Lovelle2 votes

Every single one of these champions has had tons of balance issues since their release, their kits are the problem.

Kayle has been reworked at least 3 times already.

Kennen Historically notorious for how hard he invalidates melees in lane.

Vladimir Vlad is Vlad, he will never be a balanced champion.

Riven Gets out of hand at least once a season. Even back in season 2, when defensive itemization/scaling were strong, she was still a problem. She used to get a lot tankier back then, but then again so did everyone else. Nowadays, she gets tanky (particularly through sustain), while most champions that are supposed to don't. If they do, they have to sacrifice damage, utility and/or mobility for it.

Power Cosmic1 votes

The sharing gold is insultingly stupid. Riot must think pretty lowly of us, or are just clueless themselves.

StormBladeMaster1 votes

His ulti is a pure joke... How you can dogde that ? I don't even have the time to saw the mark on the ground to tell me where to go. I don't have time to react, the ulti is almost instant.

I'm not a robot, i'm an humain pls, i have reflexs but not enough to dogde this X ulti.

Käcey1 votes
Hwke941 votes

#removepyke

Heretus1 votes

Dont forget the refreshing true damage ult , currently he is a blend of darius , tresh , ezreal ,zed , tahm and Evelyn , he should not excel at damage , cc , escape and sustain.

RozettaRose1 votes

Pyke nerf next patch hehe excited to get that champion back as a support hes fucking annoying worst thing riot created

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