CAMILLE: HowTo-Observations-Tricks-Builds-Matchups. Bring in your experiences with the new champ

Disclaimer: This thread is for technical discussion of the new Champion Camille, the Steel Shadow. I am aware that there is a lot of balance discussion and complaints running around currently. I politely ask you to not do that here. This is purely a technicl discussion thread for her ingame mechanics, builds, matchups and observations. Thank you for being nice.

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#General Observations

AS is next to pointless on her The only part of her kit that capitalizes off it, is her ult (%hp damage on every attack as long as camille is in the ult-zone). That doesn't mean however, that Phantom Dancer and BotRK don't work well with her. Camille is a natural splitpusher and any one of these makes dueling her a risky gambit. However as far as I'm concerned, both items are situational on her, and not early buys.

Her turret pressure is excellent Her Q is 2 autoattack-resets, both of which trigger Sheen. Even at early levels, Camille can do high damage to exposed turrets

Her E can cover large distances as an escape tool if fired at a low angle against a wall I would estimate at least 10 Teemos of total distance, or almost three times of a flash.

If E is not re-activated, ou can cling to a Wall for about 1 second This can be really useful to doge something like a Sion-Q when no safe jump off the wall is available.

Post level 6, the midlane is your oyster Gank. Mid. The E jumprange allows for superb initiations, and the ult makes an escape next to impossible. If you have a burst midlaner, and you are level 6 and your ult is up, you can secure kill after kill there.

Her W can be activated at almost any time Including using Q, E, during the R-animation, inflight.

Activating Titanic-Hydra before the second Q adds the damage to her true damage This may be wrong, I have to do more testing.

#Items and Item-Builds

My builds so far are pretty standard

is what I would call her core.

I favor Ravenous over Titanic, as she isn't really relying on tankyness, and lifesteal does help a lot. However, if it does turn out that the Titanic + 2nd Q actually does what I think it does (see above) I may change my mind about that.

may be of more use than Spirit Visage, especially if the enemy AP is not a major concern, and if its a burst mage it may even then. As pointed out, the fights don't really last long enough to get your moneys worth out of Spirit Visages passive. Plus: Extra damage :D

Whether you go or first is not an easy decision, in most cases so far I opted for Tiamat > Sheen, because Cams early problem is the wavecler. However, as both Qs activale Sheen, and the proc adds to her true damage, Sheen is a superior option in a lot of trading scenarios, and the CDR helps a ton.

is an option in difficult matchups on toplane, but that is chiefly due to its lower price. Cam doesn't benefit that much from the slow, the Phage proc from TF synergizes way better with her playstyle. Anyhow, against heavy AD matchups, and as a safe PlanB to fall back to when behind, it is an option.

Yes, works well, even when not against heavy AP...its sufficient to ruin nautilus day in a 1v1. Hydra+Hexdrinker is a good start in that , and similar matchups

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Jungle build by Existingdark

(if ahead) (if not)

I tested the Edge/Hydra comboin the last game on toplane as well. So far I can say: Works pretty damn well!

#Masteries

Thunderlords decree is meh. Not because its weak but because you sacrifice a lot of damage from the offense to get it, and imo its not really worthwhile considering how spikey her damage is without it already. CotC is worth a look, it activares from bith her E-stun and her ultm if it knocks back another target.

So far, I have been happy with an 18/0/12 build going for Fervor, as her abilities allow her to build the stacks really quickly.

Warlords Bloodlust seems to work especially in a Jungle build.

Grasp of the Undying, especially in matchups where heavy damage is being traded, seems to be a suboptimal choice, compared to offensive Keystones such as Fervor or Warlords. Thanks Wind234 for trying it out.

#Runes

Nothing currently. Running standard AS quint AD Marks, ARM Seals, flatMR Glyphs on her. Didn't test anything else.

#Matchups

Can be dealt with really well. If he doesn't take shield at level 1, you can push him out of lane early on. Your E allows you to prevent his "hit and run wears you down" style of playing safe trade patterns, as you can follow after his passive roots you. An early hexdrinker ruins his day.

I get the idea this guy had, blinding against the Q, but it doesn't really work. Camille is the one who initiates the fight with E, once the stun hits, its 2 quick Q, sacrificing the true damage bonus, and he loses the trade.

This was the most absurd game I ever played in my life!. Seriously, I don't even want to talk about it, it was a complete mess :D

This one is a problem. She can catch the second portion of your Q with her shield, and her trade patters match yours. Also, timed correctly, Ki-Strike will stun you when you try to E-jump on her, preventing YOUR stun from landing. In short, Riven is a hard matchup, because she beats you at your own game.

Very simple lane. You can engage at will, and his Q will never hit at fulf strength if you play your cards right. Fun side note, your ult stops his ult. 1for1 kills with the passive can easily be avoided by E-ing away.

As expected, Camille is wedge driven in the tanky-toplaners meta. I have not played against a Poppy so far, but I expect the matchup will go similar to the one against Nautilus. The time to strike is when she just used her passive and is walking up to her shield, E-stun, Q, prevent shield from being collected, second Q. Ult can be used to juke hers.

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