@Riot, Heimer is ill and needs your love

dEAdbUs··5 votes·1,059 views

First look here: http://champion.gg/champion/Heimerdinger/

Toplane winrate: 48.66% Midlane winrate: 48.72%

That means even hardcore Heimerdinger's mains can't win with him! Some may say: this is how he's balanced. But Riot said Heimerdinger is balanced when he has winrate >50%, because he's not so popular, and unpopular champions usually have higher than average winrate because only hardcore mains are playing them. Riot words here: http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/gameplay/data-and-champion-balance-part-1 (50% doesn’t mean balanced).

Why Heimerdinger in so bad state? What changed?

**S5 toplane ** His problems started in S5. When Rivens and Irelias became very popular, it was start of the end. Riven has AOE (for clearing Heimer turrets), CC (for catching Heimer), shield (for surviving his burst), mobility (for dodging his grenade). Irelia could Q on Heimer's turret and catch him - so it was self-countering from Heimer. Plus sustain and AOE from ult. However this matchup was easier than vs Riven.

Then Juggernauts came. What changed? Before update all those champions (Garen, Darius, Skarner, Fiora) had to choose: to be tanky or to be offensive. And it was ok for Heimer: glass cannon Dari could oneshot him, but he could oneshot Dari too. If Dari was tanky, then Heimerdinger has nothing to do with Darius and had to simply ignore him. Same with Fiora. But after update, Heimerdinger was able only to lose - tanky and same time with tons of damage. Should I tell about Darius sustain and CC that he never had before? Or Fiora with her counterspell for any counterplay? Heimerdinger stun has long animation, and player of any level can counter it with Fiora's Riposte.

GP update was just killer to Heimer. Tons of AOE, rip Heimer's turrets.

S5 midlane Riots made Azir. What Heimer could do to Azir? Azir is an upgraded version of Heimerdinger: longer ranges, shield, mobility, untargetable solders, own tower etc.

S5 items What was happening on midlane same time? Luden's Echo. Heimerdinger always vulnerable to AOE, and Luden's was super cool way to clear his turrets with one shot. Nuff said.

AD champions get Sterak's Gage. If someone didn't know how to beat Heimer on toplane, there is simple recipe: Hexdrinker. You jump on Heimer, he stuns you with grenade, uses his burst (uber tower or rockets) and presses Zhonia, his turrets hit you with beats. And there is your shield poping up. Heimer is standing still in Zhonia, you're clearing his turrets and killing him when he's out of stasis. Gg. What Sterak changed? EVEN MORE SHIELDS to counter Heimerdinger.

More AOE for AD champions: Titanic Hydra and Statikk Shiv.

Dead Man's Plate gave same time mobility, tankiness and cc - great options to catch slow and quishy Heimerdinger.

S6 overall In 6th season champions get even more AOE items: Rapid Firecannon, Guinsoo's Rageblade. Many items, that were counter to Heimer already, were buffed: Maw of Malmortius, Iceborn Gauntlet, Runaan's Hurricane.

In mage update Heimer's #1 item - Zhonia were nerfed.

Result Now we have sad numbers: toplane winrate: 48.66%, midlane winrate: 48.72%. Please, even if Heimerding is not popular like Zed or Ahri, he still has it fans. Don't forget about him!

And please do not downvote this post without writing why are you doing it. It took time for me to write it.

12 Comments

tXQbsPrjN54 votes

Heimer is garbage right now cause 1) he does nothing to tanks and everybodies a tank now, 2) the massive increase in global damage since last season means heimer dies quicker resulting in less time for his turrets to do work, and 3) his turrets have no beef at all and vs azir you might as well just afk.

dEAdbUs2 votes

Nice explanation

dEAdbUs3 votes

Asked to write why you downvoting topic. Get insta -2 and 0 answers after 5 views. Great community of League of Legends.

I Q1 votes

So here are my thoughts.

Heimerdinger wins lane extremely hard, but is on the weaker side in teamfights, and this is how he is balenced. This means that he loses more games the longer the game lasts strictly because he can not teamfight as well as others. He also can be pushed out of lane if you are good enough at facing him, and know your character well which means, he will be even worse in teamfights,

From this logic, he is able to have a lower winratio then others simply because, he needs to win the game early.

Another lane bully that suffers from this problem is Renekton, sitting at a 46-47% winratio.

So I do not think he needs changes, it's just his class of champion that is at fault

I hope this clears things up a little :D [slayer-jinx-wink]

dEAdbUs2 votes
  1. Heimer doesn't win lanes hard. He was problem because people meet him once in a decade, and don't know how to play vs him. As Heimer main myself I literally never lose lane or game to Heimer.

  2. He was very cool in teamfights in S4, but changes in meta (fat and strong) and items (tons of AOE and shields) countering him very hard.

  3. He was very stong lategame champion in S4, btw.

  4. Renekton doesn't have Ekko shield, endless mobility, tons of cc and ability to travel in time. Sure, he sucks comparing to Ekko.

  5. I think Juggernauts are fault and new Fiora, so what? Why they deserve some love and Heimer is not?

I Q1 votes

Why are you comparing Renekton to Ekko? Also if you are gonna be like that, Ekko doesn't have an ability that procs thunderlords by just autoing once.

I just wanted to say my opinion so see ya :D

Yaśuo Main1 votes

It's the Donger, he literally proxy camps the opponent all game.

Stop trying to buff Cancer into Super Cancer.

dEAdbUs1 votes

We have so much cancer in League, I doubt Heimer is a biggest problem.

Yaśuo Main1 votes

He aint the biggest, but he sure is the one of the huge ones

dEAdbUs1 votes

He's never banned, never picked. Guess permabanned champions are best ever.

Robi1 votes

What are you talking about heimer being bad vs Azir, Riven, Darius. It's like dream lane for me if I get to lane vs them.

If you get azir in ur lane just rush Banner of Command and laugh as Azir is unable to kill you and stop ur epic push down the mid lane. If you get riven or Darius just rush Zhonya and Rylai, vs Riven just wait for her to jump on you and stun her and drop down ur ult tower and she dies. With darius you just have to stay out of his grab zone and with rylai slow he cant even get to you.

But this is true that S6 has ruined his chances of winning as ADCs now you build hurricanes and 1 shot ur turret nests. Alot of champs can just stack Def items and still burst you down faster than you can react.

I feel like Heimer needs a new passive where he can upgrade his turrets. (something like Viktor). And his Q can have health regen for turrets (not the big ones)

dEAdbUs1 votes

If Riven jumps on you, you're knocked up.

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