I have had Yasuo's, Vayne's, Riven's and Tahm's call Kindred cancer

RedCyclone·Oct 19, 2015·173 votes·8,437 views

This amuses me

160 Comments

VekknaOct 19, 201585 votes

So that makes Kindred chemo.

LVL 5 POROOct 19, 20159 votes

You sir are amazing.

Virgin RayOct 20, 20154 votes

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Prospector PeteOct 19, 201528 votes

I've seen a Riven call Urgot cancer...

3TWarriorOct 19, 20151 votes

then there's every board member calling Yorick cancer...you literally forget him after level 3...he has no damage, no mana and his extra tankiness drains alll of his mana

i've seen one yorick do well and they got to be very tanky...in a 3v3 match... XD

Ferus and FerrumOct 19, 201522 votes

._. cant tell if trolling or nah

3TWarriorOct 19, 20151 votes

if yorick were really such a dangerous element to play against, why isn't he used more often? why is it that the good yoricks i've seen tend to frequent 3v3 with him?

i've never seen a yorick in a standard match that even knew what his ultimate did XD

BârdOct 19, 201519 votes

Yorick is the definition of an anti fun champion, so he is kept in the same state as poppy: if someone finds a way to make it strong enough for competitive, he WILL get nerfed.

junglerboy16Oct 20, 20155 votes

Yes and no—it's not that he isn't allowed to be strong competitively (he's shown up nearly a dozen times in competitive the past 2 seasons where Poppy only showed up maybe twice to mixed success), it's that he isn't allowed to be strong as an individual champion. If he were powerful on his own (as in good enough that he isn't only worth choosing as an ult bot for a hypercarry) to be considered good in say solo queue, then he would be broken as heck in competitive and on the off chance that you have a good team in solo queue he would wreck in lane and then dominate the rest of the game. He's kind of like Zilean, his ult is absurdly powerful but is totally reliant on having a good teammate to use it on, and to prevent him being too reliable, the rest of his kit has to be underwhelming for the sake of balance.

DeathToEcchiOct 20, 20151 votes

Eg. Poppy is more toxic of a kit and had been nerfed into the ground back when Yorick was THE no true counter top laner.

Let me put it this way, GetCaughtGG made a name for himself playing Yorick and Cho in a stale meta. Yorick should have been on the rework list with Irelia a long long time ago.

junglerboy16Oct 20, 20152 votes

Well, he was on the rework list, several times in fact, he's just been taken on and off the shelf repeatedly as interest and resources have dictated.

At least this time they said he isn't going back to the icebox until a rework gets finished, however long that takes.

StaconaOct 20, 20151 votes

He is getting reworked soon, so chill

BârdOct 20, 20154 votes

also looking forward to Ao Shin.

Kitten of EvilOct 20, 20154 votes

That's dumb, Urgot is obviously diabetes...

Ariel the CruelOct 20, 20153 votes

HAD diabetes. The chair fixed that after they revived him the second time.

sp441Oct 20, 20153 votes

Well... he kinda is, his playstyle is REALLY unhealthy as-is.

And I am a Urgot main, I know my shit.

Why am I complaining? Well, maybe because I want my enemies to STOP HUGGING THAT FUCKING TOWER AND FIGHT ME ALREADY!

RalanrOct 20, 20153 votes

How I feel when fighting Ryze.

DeathToHereticsOct 19, 201518 votes

While I agree with what you're saying, that's not how apostrophes work.

MegamanEXE79Oct 20, 20152 votes

Thank you for pointing this out. I didn't have the heart to tell them

PassionlipOct 19, 20159 votes

Jeez, Tahm got pulled in the boards circlejerk, goddammit LCS =_=

Ariel the CruelOct 20, 20152 votes

It was only a matter of time. . .

Poop JellyOct 19, 20158 votes

I get what you mean. I've had zac, shen, leona called my janna btchy for blocking their dashes, kinda gave me pleasure =]]

TussOct 19, 20155 votes

To be fair, it can get really annoying having to deal with that tornado.

MatezoideOct 19, 20157 votes

Tahm is considered cancer now.

Thanks, LC$

Shyvana BotOct 19, 20155 votes

Before LCS: Shit teir After LCS: Broken cancer bench the kench

Nothing about tam has changed

LuciferOct 20, 20153 votes

Nah, the forums complained about Tahm getting buffs he really didn't need. Riot didn't seem to care. There was actually quite a few "Stop Buffing Tahm Kench threads."

Sometimes the forums are stupid about calling champions weak, but Tahm was not one of those champions.

Diananmen SquareOct 19, 20155 votes

I see mostly Rengars call Kindred cancer.

Only Play DariusOct 20, 20152 votes

Lmao plays a champ with 3 passives and 6 abilities and has the balls to call anything cancer.

Diananmen SquareOct 20, 20152 votes

It's his E, Balls strike.

(Seriously though, bola actually means ball in spanish/portuguese.)

Sakura MirageOct 19, 20154 votes

Glad it isn't urgot yorick players.

RedCycloneOct 19, 201519 votes

Urgot and Yorick are like prostate cancer, sure does suck, but compared to brain cancer...

Uhmm, I don't think I should be making these comparisons

bddesuOct 20, 20152 votes

Who?

MetalGearTeemuOct 19, 20154 votes

Kindred has a safe jungle, range, good mobility, % damage, built in sustain, and a powerful slow , as well as a better trundle zone control field, and I could deal with all of that except for the ult.

Bard ult has a windup for a reason, why does Kindred get an instant speed AOE Tryn ult that makes any kind of burst or dive comp basically unplayable against her unless you're like 10k up?

Midder ScrayOct 19, 20158 votes

I think the ult's pretty fair. I mean, you actually have to be skilled with it and be aware of your surroundings. You can't just hit the button and BOOM, no death for you. Yes, the ult can help you and your teammates, but it can also get you killed if you don't use it properly. Not to mention it can be countered if you've got knockbacks, throws, grabs, etc. An enemy Gnar could easily get into the ult area and throw everybody out of it. A Blitz could grab someone out of it. Syndra could knock people out of it, and so on, it's just really early so a lot of people aren't really sure what to do with it yet

So overall, including her ult, I think Kindred's extremely balanced and well made

MetalGearTeemuOct 19, 20153 votes

I think the kits overloaded, is too safe in the woods for a ranged champion with that kind of mobility, jungles at too high a health, all of this is cancerous, but the ults the real problem on the kit

Right now using the ult is actually very simple. Is your team initiated on? Are you at a net health defecate thanks to that initiation? Kindred ult.

Congrats, your ult is designed to massively benefit whatever team is behind in the teamfight, and thus makes identifying the time to use it extremely easy. is someone on your team about to die, are 1 or less people about to die on their team? Ult.

if 2 or more are about to die on their team, hold it.

Since it means during the course of the ult damage gets equalized on the burst target and the target of your teams choice, it makes playing any kind of burst or pick comp against this character a nightmare, without the ability to brute force your way through the ult. Headbutt or Skarner ult seems like a good idea in vacuum, but you likely had to use that to get your pick in the first place. And since your movement skill can't kill, you run a very real risk of knocking the target to safety and botching any chance you had to begin with

Vore MonsterOct 19, 20154 votes

You understand Kindred is one of the slowest champions in league right now, right? Look at her base movement and her dash cooldown compared to other mobile champions.

She is, by far, not super mobile compared to others

MetalGearTeemuOct 19, 20152 votes

the same move speed as jinx, ashe, ez, corki etc.

Except she can vault. Cast field to reset vault to 2 seconds, vault again within field, and then vault outside of field with 2 second cdr from her original cast.

EVEN WHEN YOU MOVE OUT OF FIELD AS FAST AS POSSIBLE IN A CHASE: you get broken wings.

Now think about the Riven bitching on the forum, and let that sink in that this is a ranged champ with build in % health mechanics and a powerful and reliable slow... and try using your head for a change bruv.

You might be suprised.

RikoZerameOct 19, 20156 votes

Now think about the fact that Riven is manaless and much tankier than Kindred, even with the latter's ult, in addition to having two forms of hard CC rather than the single slow.

You're one to talk about using your head, bruv.

Vore MonsterOct 19, 20152 votes

Know that Kindred can only vault twice (3 with 35% CDR) when her wolf is up on that 2 second cooldown. And know that her % current hp scales up slowly and compensates her 3rd lowest base AD in the game.

She also only has 1 slow, unlike Jinx with a root and slow AND a speed boost, corki with his large leap, ez with a longer range flash, and Ashe with a permanent slow and a stun on her kit.

She also has mana, a very short range, and her only true sustain comes up about once in a team fight

The Yetii RiderOct 20, 20151 votes

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Know that Kindred can only vault twice (3 with 35% CDR) when her wolf is up on that 2 second cooldown. And know that her % current hp scales up slowly and compensates her 3rd lowest base AD in the game.

She also only has 1 slow, unlike Jinx with a root and slow AND a speed boost, corki with his large leap, ez with a longer range flash, and Ashe with a permanent slow and a stun on her kit.

She also has mana, a very short range, and her only true sustain comes up about once in a team fight

All of this is true. However Kindred's % health damage, while slow to ramp, has no cap against monsters.

And just like Morgana and her 3 second snare, when you have a mechanic that lots of champs have, but one champ is unquestionable numerically better, that champion becomes toxic.

Incoming 20 minute solo barons in the LCS.

Vore MonsterOct 20, 20152 votes

You won't be able to solo baron at 20 minutes unless you get 27 marks and have average CS gold (140 minions). She is fragile and has a hard time healing and tanking without the itemization help.

And just because she doesn't cap monster damage, doesn't mean she's toxic. She would be toxic if that % hp was magic or true damage that scaled up by 2%-3% each mark.

MetalGearTeemuDec 9, 20151 votes

Hi there

I'm back from my burial in the kindred release threads, and I'm just here to say "I told ya so"

sustain too high, damage too high, ult was target of nerfing. (though i would have still given it a fore-swing similar to bard ult over cd increase. )

Metalgear Teemu was right about Darius over Garen, he was right about support velkoz taking off in Korea, he was right about Support viegar, and he was right about Kindred

I am (Mostly) Always Right.

Kneel and worship me.

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Kindred W heal down. R cooldown up.

Kindred’s strengths have become pretty apparent as players continue mastering them, utilizing their high damage and sustain to take even the slightest advantage and run rampant. These changes are about restricting access to their more powerful tools when they’re most likely to pull ahead while introducing more risk to their death-defying maneuvers. W - Wolf's Frenzy PASSIVE HEAL 63-114 at levels 1-18 ⇒ 43-94 at levels 1-18 R - Lamb's Respite COOLDOWN 150/130/110 ⇒ 160/130/100

darkmatchwaldoOct 19, 20153 votes

The amount of times i've seen a kindred ult help the OTHER team win a fight is just too many.

KnalxzOct 19, 20154 votes

I can't be the only one who thinks Yasuo isn't OP?

The best defense against Yasuo is just having rational thinking and a quick game. He's item dependent so don't let him get to that state and heavily reliant on CC to be powerful.

charcharmunroOct 19, 201511 votes

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I can't be the only one who thinks Yasuo isn't OP?

The best defense against Yasuo is just having rational thinking and a quick game. He's item dependent so don't let him get to that state and heavily reliant on CC to be powerful.

He's not OP, but his kit is pretty unhealthy. I would argue that he's the most mobile character in the game, though his mobility is more situational compared to, say, Kassadin and Riven. He's resourceless, has basically no need for CDR and his shield is good for anti-poke or getting away with mistakes and he can effectively negate a lot of harass while laning with his Wind Wall.

CroaninOct 20, 20154 votes

The sad thing is I think Kindred is so damn well designed. Being this ranged ADC Jungler, everything about her is brilliant! Until we get to that damn ultimate of hers. I mean anti death mechanics are just annoying to play against period. The only one I don't mind too much is Aniva's since it has counter play.

Kindred just drops this annoying anti-death zone, I understand it works within her theme, but it's pretty damn random in her kit and could be replaced with so many other things. I can just imagine the obnoxious combos pros are going to come up with.

It's one thing when champions like Tryndamere or Aatrox have anti-death mechanics in themselves, but champions that provide other champions with get out of jail free cards that forgive them for a mistake is just lame. This includes Tahm Kench's Devour and Thresh's Lantern.

RikariOct 20, 20153 votes

Too much punctuation. Only thing really weird is her ult,and its not cancerous,just a gamble.

FistOfSharkieshaOct 20, 20153 votes

Now if only Fiora and Fizz called Kindred cancer we'd be in the guiness world records for irony.

badoogaOct 20, 20151 votes

The only thing I don't like about Kindred is the ult. I mean, they are the embodiment of death, and their ultimate ability is to... prevent everyone from dying? A better ult would be a large AD and Lifesteal steroid (one doesn't stack with the other) that also comes with having less armor, mr and taking more damage over the duration. This would also encourage team play as Kindred would need protection during their ult, or else they would be killed very quickly.