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Smurfs, how do you deal with feeding teams in low elo ?

FioraWillCarry··2 votes·3,447 views

So you're a Diamond 5 player smurfing in Silver. You're top lane farming all chill and shit and boom, you hear it, "enemy double kill." It's 4 minutes in. Your bot lane just fed that double. 2 minutes later your mid laner dies and the next 30 seconds, bot lane feeds another kill. 7 minutes in, the score is 4-0. By 10 minutes, 4 more kills have been fed for a total score of 8-0 in the enemy's favor. Tell me, what do you do ?

I was recently going along real nice. I climbed to Silver 2, winning and stuff and then the above scenario started happening repeatedly until I fell all the way down to Silver 5, and I'm unable to climb again. I've tried everything from power farming, camping lanes, roaming. I tried everything I could think of but nothing works, I just cant carry feeding teams. Tell me what to do. I'm fresh out of ideas.

EDIT:

It seems a lot of people misunderstand. I am not a smurf. I am asking people who smurf how do they carry feeders when they smurf.

19 Comments

Procul Impetus1 votes

You are not smurf. So doenst matter to you.

Just enjoy your silver ranking

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/0O0fAQ3W-why-are-people-blaming-their-teams-for-not-able-to-climb?comment=000600000000

Dont blame your team

FioraWillCarry2 votes

You misunderstand. People say all the time that it doesn't matter how bad the team is, games can still be won by a single player regardless. I cannot see how this is possible but I'm assuming it is, so I'm asking how would a high ranking player deal with it. How can a guy go from Bronze to Diamond going like 70-12. People claim do be able to climb from Bronze to Diamond in less than 100 games. I want to know how they get past the sheer amount of feeding teams they will no doubt get. I really want to know because I have really tried to find a way but I just cannot see it. Help me to see what these guys all see.

Procul Impetus1 votes

git gud simple its ez to get to plat+

DemainaNyx3 votes

Gotta love the immediate "git gud" response to someone asking "how does one git gud exactly".

Kai Guy1 votes

Its a law of large numbers thing. The more positive impact you bring to your team the bigger the advantage your team starts with each game. Basically if your better then the mmr your then your teams win rates > then other team. The only constant in soloing is yourself, that's 20% of your team that's never random. Any factor that might be accyused as random negative impact on you like Auto fill, Bans, Picks, matchups are all issues that can be solved by the person behind the keyboard having wider champion pools and game knowledge. So the odds of a feeder are higher to be on enemy team unless your a feeder then its a constant problem for your team in every game.

Cocho1 votes

That doesn't happen because I'm already there from the first double kill in anticipation or on reaction.

FioraWillCarry1 votes

Then you're claiming that not only do you know who is going to feed but when they are going to do so. While it sounds preposterous(believe me, I've thought about this but I'm not Nostradamus), I'm going to assume that you're being honest and ask you how do you do this.

Cocho2 votes

Its simple

They're all going to feed lmao. I play mid though so its a little different.

When the jungler ganks me, and I see him go to the bot side jungle after he fails or succeeds, I know he's likely going to clear and head bot, or go straight to bot. Than combined if bot isn't warded, then I'm gonna want to shove and get ready to roam down there.

I'm also trying to ward and get vision of the enemy jungler when I have time, either by warding entrances/camps, placing a control ward in his jg, or hitting the vision plant. When he's not one side, and the other side is gankable, then I want to start heading over there.

I take TP sometimes, so just using it when bot or top is getting ganked can be pretty good.

In other wards, just try to track the enemy jungler and fight with your team. To do any of this though, you have to be winning and having control over your lane, preferably already having killed him and playing a carry champion.

Sometimes I don't even have to do any of this, and there is just enough time to run from mid to bot before the people that are low get away.

I looked at your champs. Kayle isnt going to be able to do this too well like a quinn could. You still want to TP and potentially try to turn a fight though. I see that some of your games, you have very low kill participation, like one or two because your team feeds and you just dont bother with them. You gotta use that TP earlier. Dont use it to return to lane if you dont have to. If you aren't taking TP for cross map plays/flanks, then I suggest just not taking it period. If you're confident that you can get early kills and dominate your lane, then take ignite.

If you're confident in your kayle, then I think you should try playing her mid. You will just have more pressure on the map as a midlaner, since pushing and roaming is alot easier. Idk how kayle mid is, but mid in general is just easier to carry with. Maybe try quinn mid unless you need an AP. People played Quinn mid (pretty sure in LCS too? Not sure) when she was meta/really strong.

On shyvanna, if you know your bot is going to get ganked because nothing is warded, they're pushed, and you know their jungler is bot side, then do a lane gank. Walk from your tower into the bushes. This is probably the easiest way to get ganks off imo.

rtbf2216514121 votes

Stop smurfing because MAYBE you are the reason other smurfs are on the other team and in a different lane?

If I was to smurf, I would only go ADC. That is it.

FioraWillCarry1 votes

Did you read the whole post ? I'm not a smurf. I'm asking high elo players who smurf how are they able to win a lot in low elo.

rtbf2216514121 votes

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Did you read the whole post ? I'm not a smurf. I'm asking high elo players who smurf how are they able to win a lot in low elo.

I'm not a smurf either but you clearly said:

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So you're a Diamond 5 player smurfing in Silver.

That means you implied we are smurfs.

See how this works?

I already answered the question. You just don't want to read it.

FioraWillCarry1 votes

My bad then.

Horse Grenades1 votes

It depends on how bad they are. I'm not high elo by any means but most of the time silvers won't press their advantages so a double kill bot lane isn't the end of it all. However, if it's really bad I just try to take my lane (too or mid) to inhib to try and buy time for my team to catch. If they can't I just lose and move to the next game

Laxfan521 votes

You get over it and just try your hardest becuase the people you are playing with are still trying to learn the game and get better.

hi ìm groot1 votes

Am honestly curious myself. Im just shy of diamond 5 right now and I've been on my smurf a few times and idk how people get those win rates. Im climbing obviously but with a lower win rate than I use to get when I was gold. Had a 0/16/0 bot lane, had a jungle WW who would literally just get up from his chair and go afk for 5 minutes at a time several times and usually right before a fight for an objective. Granted I dont have a lot of champions and I'm using teir 2 runes, when WW gets banned im stuck with a supp jungle and thats terrible for low elos.

But I do think adc'ing can carry harder in lower elos because they dont have the mechanics to catch you out and you can get off alot of damage with decent positioning.

KirbyCake1 votes

it's very hard to lose a single game in silver, because almost anything works. just tunnel vision pushing inhibitor down at 15 minutes or roaming should both win really easily. the only possible time where you won't get fed to the point where you can't 1 v 5 is when the enemy team has a smurf themselves.

I remember last time I played in bronze/silver I had a 26 game win streak, honestly easier than bots.

FioraWillCarry1 votes

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just tunnel vision pushing inhibitor down at 15 minutes or roaming should both win really easily.

I've tried both these things. Roaming doesn't stop a stupid team from feeding despite how successful your roams are. I've seen this multiple times. My last game as of this post, I abandoned top lane to help after my bot lane started feeding. I gave up my top lane to camp the shit out of bot and these %%%%s still fed. Me and the jungle gave then two to three solid ganks and they still lose and feed all to shit. And while me and the jungler were taking on bot lane. Guess what happens....mid feeds and loses tower. Roaming is not the answer.

As for pushing down an inhibitor at 15 minutes. Only way this happens is if you are stronger than everyone else, but when your team feeds, it can't work because they could easily send any number of fed members to easily stop you while the rest get fed of the remaining members of your team. And while you're desperately trying to push down your lane as fast as possible, your team just feeds, loses dragons, Herald and multiple towers. Even if you get a tower, you alone cannot out push 4 people barrelling down another lane.

I remember last time I played in bronze/silver I had a 26 game win streak, honestly easier than bots.

Easier than bots ? LOL. Not even close to being true. lol. Trying to win games in Silver right now is incredibly painful. I don't know what you're seeing that I can't. I really wish I could see it too.

You're Diamond 1, so yea maybe it is true for you that it's easy. But you're doing something else and you probably don't even realize what you're doing is why you win so much. I'm thankful for your input but it's not the answer. There is something else you guys do and like I said, you may not even be aware of what it is.

Anyways, maybe I'll figure it out after a few more thousand games lol.

Thx for your input.

DunkinNoobs1 votes

You keep playing and look for opportunities to snowball. It's silver; they're going to fuck up and give you openings at some point. Then you just hope you can carry with your lead. You won't win every game, but you'll still win far more than you lose.

FioraWillCarry2 votes

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You keep playing and look for opportunities to snowball. It's silver; they're going to fuck up and give you openings at some point.

This is exactly right, the problem is that a 10-0 Malzhar has no exploitable openings unless you're like 17-0. The point I'm making here is that a fed team can do whatever they want, it doesn't even have to be good play and they still win. For example, that 10-0 Malz might be overextending without wards which is a huge mistake but you can't exploit it when half your team is like 1-7. They collapse on him, he just gets a double or tripple despite him making that huge mistake.

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