You should have at least 2 pocket supports for when you're…

Big Lincoln · 2017-04-12T12:26:00.022Z

2 back to back games this morning where my team or the enemy team's autofilled player forced their team to let them jungle. I expect boards posters to be better than that, but a good chunk still complain about autofill so I'm gonna tell you the obvious; you NEED to know at least 2 pocket supports and IMO if you can't play support you shouldn't play ranked, because you're going to get autofilled. are all low-entry champions who are simple and effective (and GOOD) without needing to play them extensively to do well. Pick 1 enchanter and 1 tank to cover your bases, and if you want to be aggressive are on the menu. if you happen to like support a lot and want to play it more then you can move on to , who are harder to play but far more flexible in what they can do. playing support is really not that bad, there's no reason for players to troll their team because they have to play it one game out of 10

EedatApr 12, 20173 votes

They aren't "mechanical nightmares". They don't really require mechanics. What they do require is better decision making than safer picks like Janna Lulu

PaquayApr 12, 20172 votes

Although Lulu is a highly popular pick right now, she's now Janna or Sona levels of easy. There is decision making that is involved with all of her skills other than Q, which depending on where Pix is, can be a pretty tricky skillshot.

You need to decide the value of using your W and E on allies or enemies (typically W on enemies and E on allies). You also need to decide if it is worth to use R to initiate and get a good group knock up in to start a team fight, or if you should hold it to potentially save an ally.

Also, if you're really good you can use your E on minions to get good range on your Q and slow/kill a fleeing enemy. But I wouldn't expect an autofill player to start doing craziness like that.

LauchmelderApr 12, 20171 votes

With Taric I can agree. But Riot removed any skill requirement on Alis Combo.

RalanrApr 12, 20173 votes

Not to mention Ali is pretty much hard countered by people like Morgana. It's too easy to counterpick him.

LauchmelderApr 12, 20171 votes

But who in low elo wants to play Morgana instead of another, more flashy, support?

RalanrApr 12, 20176 votes

Idk, people who see me lock in Alistar apparently.

DuskDaUmbreonApr 12, 20179 votes

Erm…Me? Or is this an /s moment?

CannonLordFreedApr 12, 20172 votes

When I first started playing Ali I didn't even know he had combos other than flash Q W (This was back when his combo was super hard to do). I got flamed all the time for it. If someone doesn't know about it, which is perfectly reasonable, they have no hope of being able to pull it off.

SolitairApr 12, 20172 votes

the combo isn't the only outlet of skill on an alistar, and it is still quite possible to mess it up, as you basically have to q it up in flight which only really gives you a few more milliseconds of time to input for a properly executed combo. If you legitimately try to q it up before your headbutt animation begins, you will just smash the ground like an idiot. The dude also has punishing cd's, even on max CDR. You've got to be extra mindful about using your abilities because landing a headbutt/pulverize can actually lose you a fight if what you actually needed to do was bodyblock properly or peel vigilantly.

Big LincolnApr 12, 20171 votes

I don't find Taric to be particularly difficult, I would probably recommend him to new players or autofills

TotalJerkApr 13, 20171 votes

Taric is completely useless in lane when his E is on cooldown, and the cooldown on it is fucking high. This no longer applies, but before you could ping spells his ult was also extremely difficult to use without voice chat.

Professor WardApr 12, 20172 votes

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Low-entry... ... ... I wouldn't trust an autofilled support with those two. They're incredibly difficult to play to a degree where they're actually helpful. Give them someone like Braum, Naut, or Leona, sure, but not those two mechanical nightmares.

As a support main alistar is not entry level at all, maybe pre ult nerf but now he plays as a very passive tank into most lanes as his engage is dangerous and his cooldowns are horrendous.

Sun Wu RyuumokuApr 13, 20171 votes

Taric IS it a joke ?

sta supraApr 13, 20171 votes

honestly i wouldnt trust them on braum ether. MAYBE Naut but i played against a support this morning who went full ap naut so its kinda hard to say i can trust an auto fill on him.

You should have at least 2 pocket supports for when you're autofilled

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