So the jungle meta shifted again.

Actually, lots of people say that Lee Sin shows to be problematic because he's being picked up by many people who don't know how to play him and they still have decent success doing so.

yeah a guy with 45% win rate on lee sin must be a lee sin god when he last hits people with Q and then come in my jungle combo's me once and i have to recall and give him my entire jungle and fall 2 lvls behind.

That used to be true but not anymore, and that's the biggest indicator that he has become unbalanced. He used to require skill and took dozens of games to reach 50+% winrate. Now he's in 40% of games and people can pick him up and carry with him on their first game.

Hmmmmm..... well......... considering the fact you expect to be tower dove or ambushed from over the wall then it is your responsibility to actually ward smartly. You should have the mental capacity to understand that warding will never give you 100% vision on the Rift so it is up to you to actually use the information given by determining where the jungler will be and when. If you know that one side of your midlane is heavily warded isn't it a bit obvious he's going to gank from the other side? You don't just stick your wards under tower every second because you want to be ward efficient. You you want to put your wards in areas that will give you the most vision or where it is critically needed.

Your second sentence about him being able to jump over walls with his W. You do know that almost half the champions can go over walls right.

Your third sentence about you being a bad jungler and not know where lee is or at least expect lee shows that, well, you are kind of a bad jungler. I've gotten double kills off of bad jungle ganks. Those were more due to the jungler being unwise in his decision making.

Your fourth sentence doesn't just sound like mindless whining. From your incoherent qq post I get that you are saying that he deals too much damage given his utility. When you are talking to people or trying to express yourself it's best to focus on the problem instead of complaining about majority of the things involved in the situation. That leads to bias. I'm am not going to hop onto a band-wagon and say something needs because everybody says something is oppressive. I will how ever support nerfs that are focused towards toning down a specific advantage of a champion that they shouldn't have.

e.g. I didn't support the Vayne nerfs or ADC nerfs until people started saying that they're early games are too good.

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