Golly I wonder who won this match

PopcornBunni··2 votes·1,593 views

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Fix your matchmaking riot.

If you're going to match first time players with one tricks several ranks above them, at least put a mix of both on both teams. It's hard enough getting pitted against silvers and golds as an iron player, let alone when the entire enemy team is while mine is all unranked-bronze or first time players.

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MrFawknSunshine2 votes

in all honesty what was the thought process of lulu top?

that hasnt been worth a damn in 3 seasons

PhDs Nuts1 votes

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in all honesty what was the thought process of lulu top?

that hasnt been worth a damn in 3 seasons

Klepto support item 0 farm strat abuse

MrFawknSunshine1 votes

ddint do that i looked at the match on op.gg he was building tear and going ap on hit vs teemo

Boltonator1 votes

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Klepto support item 0 farm strat abuse

Except Lulu is a true Support.

PopcornBunni2 votes

It's to farm and poke against teemo. I actually ended with more farm than him because unlike my other, melee choices or auto focused ranged like Quinn, Lulu can actively trade and punish teemo. Lulu is my usual pick into other ranged tops because I know how to play the character modestly well and it's a better chance than my other options. I don't know if it plays out as an overall trend, but it tends to be my only real viable choice from anecdotal experience.

MrFawknSunshine1 votes

but you are going on hit which is auto attack based vs a champ that blinds your autos

the best counter to teemo top is casters cuz the blind dont matter in your damage/trades cuz you are casting abilities to damage teemo instead of autos

or champs with reliable gap closers/cc to lock his ass down and murder him /free ganks for jungle

i have always done well vs teemo with LISS top and before swain rework , swain top.

but lulu top isnt really that good, she scales for shit and becomes a 2nd support after mid game. just fyi

ModKnightsKemplar1 votes

first time players

The lowest level in that game is 43. Who is a first timer?

PopcornBunni1 votes

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The lowest level in that game is 43. Who is a first timer?

The Jhin with 0 mastery points?

floo1 votes

Everyone starts with 0 mp on each champ. Do you expect him to play only 100k+ champs or what? It's a normal game. They exist so people get to know champs.

FOR JUSTICE2 votes

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The lowest level in that game is 43. Who is a first timer?

since you can see mastery points by flipping the player card, you can assume anyone with less then 3000 has played less then 3 games on that champion. 0 means never played once, not even on free rotation.

Boltonator1 votes

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since you can see mastery points by flipping the player card, you can assume anyone with less then 3000 has played less then 3 games on that champion. 0 means never played once, not even on free rotation.

Technically correct but Co-op doesn’t add mastery points so it would be the first time they’ve used that champion in a PvP match.

5050BS2 votes

Jhin with 0 MP and lvl 43..... He most likely played BOTs and Normals until 43 when he has the number of champions needed to play Ranked. He is a baby in the game.

floo1 votes

He has a good amount of ranked games for S9. And at some point everyone starts with 0 mp on each champ, where's your point?

DrCyanide1 votes

If you're going to match first time players with one tricks ...

This isn't Team Builder, Riot doesn't know what a person is going to pick before they get into queue.

Pals Before Gals1 votes

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This isn't Team Builder, Riot doesn't know what a person is going to pick before they get into queue.

You got a great point there, m8. That's why he's silent.

5050BS1 votes

Riot has a very good incline as to what you will play.

You for instance if Mid will play Xerath almost 100% of the time.

DrCyanide1 votes

To the best of my knowledge, Riot doesn't try to predict what you'll pick. I've certainly never seen any posts about that.

The more I play Xerath Mid over any other champions the more my Mid Rank/MMR actually represents my Xerath Rank/MMR. But if Xerath gets banned, or picked by the other team, or I've been on a losing spree with him then I may swap to another champion.

I'd also consider one-tricks (or nearly one-tricks) to be an outlier rather than the norm. Particularly in low elo, it's not uncommon to see someone who's played 100+ matches and their most played champion they've only played 5 Ranked games on. They just bounce around until they find something that kinda works and play it until they get bored or it doesn't work anymore.

All of this is to say that building a matchmaking system off of what you think a person might play is incredibly dangerous.

Tuition Fee1 votes

What if someone is a smurf tho

5050BS2 votes

Smurfing should be bannable. It out right Ruins Rank. The WHOLE point of ELO is for teams to be evenly matched with Players that are trying to win every game.

Smurfing, Autofil, Trolling and Duoing is why ELO will never work out side LCS

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system

Tuition Fee1 votes
  1. It's not bannable
  2. It does ruin ranked and I'm not advocating for it, but so long as Riot decides to not make it a punishable offense, nothing will be done, and if we force smurfs to play champs a certain amount of times, it makes the game even worse for new players
  3. People play champs in PBE/other accounts
MrFawknSunshine1 votes

the only possible otp i see is the TEEMO with 342934 mastery points but as a maokai one trick i have 1 million mastery points on him so people having under 100k mastery isnt anything to be considered one tricks

xDogMeatx1 votes

The game is over before it even starts... Now the battle of the tilt starts.

Phieldworker1 votes

I mean it was a normal game with all unranked people except two iron players. So pretty even.

BigFBear1 votes

I know what you mean. It bothers me too. But actually it's the stupidity of the players. What should Riot do? They can't predict what champs players will pick. Maybe they have several Lvl 7 Champs but decided just in this game to try a new one. I will never understand why people do this in ranked.

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