Can Riot please do something about Shaco or stealth in general?

Hallbuster··1 votes·400 views

It's honestly the most broken mechanic in LoL right now, made even more so by how it's a given passive and not toggled. Just had an easy lane turn into a complete fiasco by a Shaco and Ahri. During each of Shaco's ganks, he would lay down a Jack in the Box and fear me while Ahri followed it up with a charm resulting in perpetual cc instakill. Meanwhile, foreign speaking Yi farmed the jungle for the rest of the game.

If Riot actually gave us some counterplay, I would have taken full responsibility for the loss but if the only way to survive my lane was tower hugging, a concept that would mean a loss of CS and defeat anyways. I think we can take some changes into account.

  1. Maybe make the pink wards "work as intended" and actually disable camouflage. Reverting the 2017 Season Update(see below).
  2. Make camouflaged champions visible on the minimap so we at least have some clue as to where they are.

If anyone can give me any beneficial advice, it would be greatly appreciated.

11 Comments

Warhammer Titan2 votes

Pink wards can spot him, so you can back off before he ganks

Hallbuster1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Grand ChalIenge,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6gXJqVEE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-06-02T01:55:13.556+0000)

Pink wards can spot him, so you can back off before he ganks

I mentioned this in my thread, no, it actually doesn't:

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/featured/preseason-2017/assassins

"Control Wards still grant their own vision, but also provide strong vision denial—they reveal and disable nearby enemy wards and traps—but they don't reveal Invisible champs."

The same goes for the comment above me.

Tried the tactic in the game, didn't work.

As for the late game and team fights, yes he falls off, I don't deny that but it's the lane phase I'm struggling with right now, especially the 2 vs 1's.

Warhammer Titan1 votes

Well then, I have no idea. I know shaco and eve arnet really strong right now so they must have some sort of counterplay

Hallbuster2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Grand ChalIenge,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6gXJqVEE,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-02T02:02:37.691+0000)

Well then, I have no idea. I know shaco and eve arnet really strong right now so they must have some sort of counterplay

The only "counterplay," from what I can tell is grouping but I don't see how this can be done in the laning phase.

Hallbuster2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Grand ChalIenge,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6gXJqVEE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-06-02T01:55:13.556+0000)

Pink wards can spot him, so you can back off before he ganks

Keep upvoting lies, downvoting truths, without making replies.

Warhammer Titan1 votes

What

Takazaki1 votes

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Keep upvoting lies, downvoting truths, without making replies.

You're reading this wrong. pink word spot shaco before he goes into stealth

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My jungler couldn't even be bothered to gank, much less ward for me. He was speaking a form of foreign language most likely Chinese. Communication was nonexistent between us 2.

And even if he could, read above.

thats a per game thing. not a balance thing. You're basically just saying " Shaco did shaco things, and my team didn't react at all nor did i have the proper knowledge to deal with it."

lumanachi2 votes

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SwiftKitten882 votes

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As a shaco main, he meant to tilt you and your team mates with his kit and play style. Js

and this is above else the problem with him.

he is DESIGNED to be toxic. which is NOT how a champion should be designed.

the point of the game is to have fun... counter-play or not... balanced or not... no one is having FUN facing a shako...

Takazaki1 votes

shaco ganks are extremely telegraphed. he can only surprise you from about 4 different spots. all of which can because easily covered via yellow trinket. also ask your jungler to help you ward.

Hallbuster1 votes

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shaco ganks are extremely telegraphed. he can only surprise you from about 4 different spots. all of which can because easily covered via yellow trinket. also ask your jungler to help you ward.

My jungler couldn't even be bothered to gank, much less ward for me. He was speaking a form of foreign language most likely Chinese. Communication was nonexistent between us 2.

And even if he could, read above.

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