am i missing something here, or will my lane opponent now "lvl 2 all in" me at lvl 1, or get his ult at lvl 5?
it doesnt actually even matter who you put that on. even its the champions its intended for. its gonna be busted on supports aswell. on everyone.
pls dont let that shit get to live.
Linna Excel3 votesIt is supposed to take forever to get the upgrade.
Critmaster Garen1 votes[{quoted}](name=Linna Excel,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6dMyaNHL,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-04-19T04:44:11.304+0000)
It is supposed to take forever to get the upgrade.
what do you actually have to do to get it?
according to riots mid season page, there is no condition attached. there is no mention of anything you have to do to get the extra skill point apart from buying the item.
do you have to get a certain amount of gold off its passive first?
WngNut1 votesthat's the idea, it's another minigame so the quest will be tied to either getting a certain amount of gold or getting a certain amount of the new coins. my current thoughts are that the extra skill point won't come into play until mid/late game where it probably will have less impact. I think it's stupid and hate seeing rito messing with my support role but I don't think any of the new GP10 items are going to actual be broken.
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ChaddyFantome1 votes[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6dMyaNHL,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-04-19T04:45:54.588+0000)
what do you actually have to do to get it?
according to riots mid season page, there is no condition attached. there is no mention of anything you have to do to get the extra skill point apart from buying the item.
"Once you complete your quest" isn't a condition!?!??
Critmaster Garen1 votes"Once you complete your quest" isn't a condition!?!??
the quest isnt specified on that page.
ChaddyFantome1 votes[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6dMyaNHL,comment-id=0000000000010000,timestamp=2017-04-19T05:19:13.747+0000)
the quest isnt specified on that page.
**
Quest Details **
Once you have earned a certain amount of gold with your choice of starting item, the item’s quest is replaced with a unique passive.
Ancient Coin line: Gain an elixir that instantly grants a skill point when consumed. Takedowns on enemy champions spawn gold and mana coins.
You still have a max of 18 skill points per game - you’ll finish leveling your abilities at level 17
If your inventory is full, the elixir is automatically consumed (and you can choose a skill)
Relic Shield line: Gain a shield that regenerates out of combat. Executing minions accelerates the regeneration.
Spellthief’s Edge line: Tribute procs grant a short burst of movement speed.
Bruh,.
Critmaster Garen1 votes
** Quest Details ** Once you have earned a certain amount of gold with your choice of starting item, the item’s quest is replaced with a unique passive.
Ancient Coin line: Gain an elixir that instantly grants a skill point when consumed. Takedowns on enemy champions spawn gold and mana coins. You still have a max of 18 skill points per game - you’ll finish leveling your abilities at level 17 If your inventory is full, the elixir is automatically consumed (and you can choose a skill) Relic Shield line: Gain a shield that regenerates out of combat. Executing minions accelerates the regeneration. Spellthief’s Edge line: Tribute procs grant a short burst of movement speed.
Bruh,.
those first two lines about the quest details are not on the news page
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/featured/midseason-2017
it would have definitely been useful if they included that there. because without specifying that part, it looks like you get the "quest" for buying the coin.
MavenSong1 votesI think I read somewhere you also need the second tier to actually be able to complete (redeem?) It.
ChaddyFantome1 votesthe Quest is attached to the support item. The quest itself is getting gold via the support item. Getting gold via support gold items requires one of not 2 things.
Once you get 650 g via support item, you complete the quest and get the buff/reward.
PlsCheckThisBush1 votesI'd love an opportunity to test these items - they all seem really unique!
The Ancient Coin seems to be attracting a lot of attention, however (iirc, please correct me if I'm wrong!) I faintly remember hearing it will drop little gold/xp piles (similar to Thresh's Souls) that could be picked up by the support or denied from the enemy team. I'm honestly super psyched to see some depth in these items, and having items that let you play a fun game on the side instead of "Push Wave, Dive? Nah just wait till next wave. Rinse and repeat." It could definitely bring a healthy dynamic down in an otherwise boring lane (provided you aren't all-inning at every chance possible) and promotes scaling a little bit - or at the very least getting to do SOMETHING instead of the same ol' song and dance. I immediately hated the Blast Cones when they came out myself, however I've found more often than not they can save you (or your teammate's) life many times over. It won't stop, say, Rek'Sai from tunneling over and killing you again. But at the end of the day it's SOMETHING for mobility/escape for champions that have none. The Honeyfruits work well in a similar manner, get bullied out of top lane and don't have Teleport up/you didn't bring it? Go snatch a few Honeyfruits and come back into lane like nothing happened at all. Maybe kill the Scuttlecrab to make up for any loss in XP, and to further replenish your resources.
Relic Shield seems to do exactly what it's advertising. A small constant shield (similar to Malphite's) that can be broken, however to replenish it you actively need to kill minions with an ally nearby to make the most out of it. So now the ADC will (hopefully) want the gold to be shared instead of pushing the wave so fast Braum can't get his big beefy hands in there to empower them for the next fight - or the current one going on (if it's able to refresh like that). This could definitely lead to some crazy LCS plays and fights that were turned around with better macro-management of your items and timings.
Spellthief's Edge seems tuned towards support champions that want to poke, and poke again, and poke again and again.........while I do enjoy free movement speed, I'm not sure how I feel about the Spellthief's Procs itself granting the movement speed. Zyra will heavily abuse this if her plants are still allowed to proc it, being able to run in and guarantee abilities (and more plants) hit seems difficult to work around. Someone like Morgana can pick this up, pick up Tormented Soil (W) level 1 and guarantee her Spellthief's gets all procs off, as well as TLD for that extra "oomph." The speed will likely be wasted in that situation, as the enemy knows you have nothing else and will trade hard with you if they have their abilities left. However...if it still procs off of Auto-Attacks, I could imagine someone like Morgana or Thresh pick it up, start Q, smack the Support once or twice with Autos, and sprint directly in front of the ADC, almost guaranteeing their CC will land. The dynamics of Bot Lane are always interesting to see, as they've had such a diverse set of champion pools over the years, but usually only a select handful that are deemed "professional play" that rotates from patch to patch.
Either way, I'm super excited to see the changes coming forward, as they will definitely impact the game and meta in a large way, while hopefully bringing in champions that were left untouched for being "boring, binary" or otherwise.
MysterQ1 votesI like current Coin, t has grown on me a lot. Sometimes the passive lane is the correct decision and a skill in itself to keep your cs while not pushing.