Conqueror abuse on form switching champs

Z3Sleeper·6/4/2019, 12:25:29 AM·6 votes·2,801 views

So normally,

Ranged = 2s Conqueror Melee = 8s Conqueror

Form switching champs however, have access to both. What happens is that if they land a melee form attack, the counter will count down from 8s from when they landed it, giving them 8s to abuse it as a ranged champion (ranged attacks will not reset the counter until the counter is below 2s).

Using Jayce as an example, here's some situations:

Example 1 - Ranged -> Melee: Jayce gets 4 stacks in Cannon form then switches to Hammer for his combo. Afterwards when he E's them away, he switches to Cannon again. He then has 8s to freely use Conqueror in his ranged form without worrying about the stacks falling off every 2 seconds. (more like ~4 seconds honestly, since his melee combo lasts all of ~2 seconds and his R cd is 6 seconds)

Example 2 - Melee -> Ranged (the real problem): Jayce gets a stack(s) in Hammer form then switches to Cannon. For the next 8 seconds, he can stack Conqueror in Cannon form on top of the 8s stack(s) he got from Hammer form (doesn't reset timer unless it goes below 2s). If he switches back to Hammer form and lands an attack before the 8s expire, he refreshes the counter to 8s.

This applies to Nidalee and Elise as well, though only Nidalee has been using it at all between the two.


#TL;DR:

Stack duration should reset and match the duration of the last stack acquired (ranged attacks should set it to 2s, melee to 8s).

4 Comments

MrFawknSunshine6/4/2019, 12:36:48 AM3 votes

didnt know jayce went conqueror to begin with.

just checked, his most common and best win rate rune is aery with a 50% pick rate

so i dont think its an issue

he only uses conqueror 16% of games

DARCKD00M6/4/2019, 2:57:00 AM2 votes

yeah like people who abuse of this are gonna say it's not ok.... stop protecting ur cheezy tactics you lamos

also when is riot gonna remove this sht broken rune...or bring back ult hat!

Zane Zephyr6/4/2019, 3:18:01 AM1 votes

once you switch forms it acts accordingly. if he gets a stack in hammer, then switches, stacks will only last three seconds and fall off like it should.