can we make her a solo lane control mage?
I mean... all you need to do is replace the W with something like dianas zone pull, and increase the damage of her Q. Afterall, the only thing 'support-ee' about sona was her W. Now that its worthless (its not even a one point wonder...) theres nothing to keep sona as a support.
Lazypeon1005 votesWho picks sona for the heal??? You bring her for the heavy amounts of poke and a game changing stun. The sustain is just icing on the cake.
Marshbouy3 voteswhy pick sona for the heal when you could go raka? (unless she as banned OFC)
Lazypeon1003 voteswhy pick sona for the heal when you could go raka? (unless she as banned OFC)
Pretty much. Soraka while bringing more sustain, is also (slightly) tankier than Sona, especially if she builds for it. Her lane phase is safer, while Sona is meant to whittle the enemy down and use the heal to keep her and her adc at the advantage.
Marshbouy4 votesYup. OP doesnt know what he is talking about
FourVsFive3 votesThey remaking her right now, will see how it goes when released.
Friendly Ram2 votesNah sona is a top lane tank bud.
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Nah sona is a top lane tank bud.
IBG sona with raylais, RoA, SV, merc treads, and sunfire cape is actually rather powerful.
Friendly Ram1 votesMy buddy goes ibg sv mercs zzrots and sunfire usually. He'll add a bork if they get too tanky.
Yosuke Apperu1 votesPeople will just take the new control mage bot and support with her XD
Paroe2 votesPeople will just take the new control mage bot and support with her XD
Why? She doesnt heal. Thats... litterally the only reason you take sona. She has a spammable heal thats relatively cheap. Orianna is a better support than sona, and orianna is a mage. like an actual mage.
They remaking her right now, will see how it goes when released.
Is a nerf a rework? Sona has already had two reworks, if the whole 'support' thing doesnt work... she needs to be relaunched. Her auras are her iconic things, so make her kit revolve around passive auras and active effects similar to udyr.
Yosuke Apperu3 votesWhy? She doesnt heal. Thats... litterally the only reason you take sona. She has a spammable heal thats relatively cheap. Orianna is a better support than sona, and orianna is a mage. like an actual mage.
Is a nerf a rework? Sona has already had two reworks, if the whole 'support' thing doesnt work... she needs to be relaunched. Her auras are her iconic things, so make her kit revolve around passive auras and active effects similar to udyr.
A lot of people like taking sona bot because of the stupid amounts of cheese damage her q does early. Plus she has insane synergy with ezreal.
Paroe2 votesA lot of people like taking sona bot because of the stupid amounts of cheese damage her q does early. Plus she has insane synergy with ezreal.
Not... really? You can change that by lowering base damage early on and increasing it later.
By taking away the limitation of support, you open the champion up to much more fitting and balancable concepts.
Yosuke Apperu4 votesNot... really? You can change that by lowering base damage early on and increasing it later.
By taking away the limitation of support, you open the champion up to much more fitting and balancable concepts.
Plenty of champions are taken support for more than just one ability lol. Sona also has Aoe move speed, targeted mini exhaust/ targeted slow. Ofcourse we can't forget a nice aoe stun in the form of her ultimate.
Paroe3 votesPlenty of champions are taken support for more than just one ability lol. Sona also has Aoe move speed, targeted mini exhaust/ targeted slow. Ofcourse we can't forget a nice aoe stun in the form of her ultimate.
So does orianna and karma. How often do you see them?
Yosuke Apperu2 votesSo does orianna and karma. How often do you see them?
Where's the targeted mini exhaust and slows from karma and orianna?
Paroe3 votesWhere's the targeted mini exhaust and slows from karma and orianna?
Karma has a root and more reliable movement speed buff, in addition to slows on her Q (20 and 50%). Orianna has a 40% slow on shockwave.
Also, you DO realize the reason exhaust is taken over ignite, barrier, teleport, or heal is because it reduces enemy damage by 40%, right? Not the slow?
Yosuke Apperu1 votesKarma has a root and more reliable movement speed buff, in addition to slows on her Q (20 and 50%). Orianna has a 40% slow on shockwave.
Also, you DO realize the reason exhaust is taken over ignite, barrier, teleport, or heal is because it reduces enemy damage by 40%, right? Not the slow?
As in sona's powerchord w is an exhaust.. lol
Zone of Endless5 votesWhy? She doesnt heal. Thats... litterally the only reason you take sona. She has a spammable heal thats relatively cheap. Orianna is a better support than sona, and orianna is a mage. like an actual mage.
Is a nerf a rework? Sona has already had two reworks, if the whole 'support' thing doesnt work... she needs to be relaunched. Her auras are her iconic things, so make her kit revolve around passive auras and active effects similar to udyr.
Her heal is definitely not cheap. It's a pathetic heal that cost more than it should
Nekusen1 votesBecause Sona is pure utility combined with retarded auto-targeted poke.
Paroe4 votesBecause Sona is pure utility combined with retarded auto-targeted poke.
So change it. o-o
The way i understand it, "shes broken only nerfs" is the pervading logic here. If shes broken fundamentally - as in, shes either overbearing or worthless - change it. Sonas main themes were always music and auras; by tailoring those auras to a solo lane (say make them only effect her and minions at full strength, and allied champions at half strength) you can create a unique concept that is balancable within a niche.
Swiftstrike41 votesSona is mostly considered a support because of the buffs she grants from her Aura to nearby allies and with her passive which can be a slow, heal, or damage. Her Q also hits two enemy targets (which can be 2 champs if done properly)
Most support Sona's don't spam her heal too much unless they are behind. She is there to zone the enemy off farm until 6 and provide slight buffs to her ally.
The upcoming changes gear her away from early damage and more towards providing teammates buffs and her abilities scaling a bit better.
I do take Sona mid in normals to screw around, but her wave clear is garbage. Early laning she is fine but by mid game you have no wave clear and its easy to lose towers. Sona with a Meiji's and a maxed E with a alot of ability power is super fun though.