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Karma R+W : Grounding?

Fikule··1 votes·695 views

Grounding didn't exist when they remade Karma and her W ult became the heal and extra root time.

What would people think to removing the bonus root duration and instead causing the target to become grounded during the tether on her ult W?

It would give you legitimate reasons to use it. Preventing champions escaping or engaging on you at the cost of bonus shield or damage.

7 Comments

SilverSquid2 votes

I am generally not in favour of hammering down Karma's "disruptor" qualities. Those weren't part of her original design and they didn't make her any better, when they were slapped onto her for no apparant reason. It just watered her identity down. Karma used to and should be a battlemage/enchanter. While I do agree that the 1.25s bonus root should be removed from her kit, replacing it with the "grounded" effect doesn't seem to be a good idea.

Why?

Because with Karma's slow and ms buff she can very much guarantee the root already. Just slapping the "grounded" debuff on it only removes counterplay without adding any meaningful depth, synergy or needed power to her kit.

Reintroducing the bonus damage and replacing her awkward missing%healing with a flat healing that scales with low hp makes more sense. Both for her decision making and buildpaths.

CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes

only if they get rid of the heal.

Fikule1 votes

Removing the extra 1.25 second root makes more sense. You're giving up longer control for stronger control

CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes

grounded is not stronger than root. You'd be getting longer and giving up stronger

Also karma would become unplayable if you did that

MagicFlyingLlama1 votes

Healing most of your hp is a legitimate reason to use it, i think. Interesting idea, though.

Fikule1 votes

True, though often it's only for sustain, not combat. Generally your ulted shield is better in a fight as it provides more defense than the heal and also shields others.

This one is more to give it a combat purpose. Like imagine ult-w on a Katrina or Zed

Catastrop1 votes

No, the root is way more useful than grounded, and it just disincentives you from using RW. Also, there already is legitimate reason for, a 2 second root is not to be underestimate.

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