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Why is Taric heal so low compared to Rakan's?

Fikule·4/20/2017, 8:51:15 PM·15 votes·2,811 views

Just a comparison:

0AP and 0 Bonus HP. Level 11 (Rank 5) Rakan Heal = 98 (1.6 healing per mana) Taric Heal = 60/120/180 (0.42/0.85/1.28 healing per mana)

200AP and 2000 Bonus HP. Level 11 (Rank 5) Rakan Heal = 238 (4 healing per mana) Taric Heal = 130/260/390 (0.92/1.85/2.78 healing per mana)

0AP and 2000 Bonus HP. Level 11 (Rank 5) Rakan Heal = 98 (1.6 healing per mana) Taric Heal = 90/180/270 (0.64/1.28/1.92 healing per mana)

Kind of looks fine (ignoring lots of details), but how about a realistic end-game build?

Rakan, Level 18, 100AP and Tanky af Rakan Heal = 220 (3.6 healing per mana)

Taric, Level 18, 0AP and 1650 bonus HP Taric Heal = 254 (1.8 healing per mana)

So, a realistic end-game Taric build has 50% of the healing per mana of a Rakan heal. And that's assuming Taric has 3 charges. Rakan's heal has a 6 second cooldown while Taric's is 15 seconds per charge. If Taric uses Bastion and Dazzle with auto attacks on a target who isn't running away he can get all three charges (assuming he started the fight with one full set of charges) in about 3 seconds, once.

That would put his healing per second for two heals at 169 per second at a cost of 400 mana (1.26 healing per mana)

If Rakan hits an enemy a second time after 6 seconds he gets 73 healing per second at a cost of 120 (3.65 healing per mana) or, if we assume Rakan cast his other abilities (even though not required for healing), it's 310 mana, or 1.41 healing per mana, still more efficient without any heavy combat requirement other than hitting an enemy from range.

I just don't see why Taric's heal is so much higher risk with a much lower reward. And as a fight goes on Taric's heal only gets less efficient from his other cooldowns.

27 Comments

TyrekGoldenspear4/20/2017, 10:20:52 PM10 votes

Rakan is more fabulous than Taric.

Anomander4/20/2017, 8:56:13 PM8 votes

Conditional vs targeted........

ModAcademy Kayn4/21/2017, 5:01:44 AM6 votes

Because one requires you to hit a skillshot.

chipndip14/20/2017, 10:31:35 PM5 votes

Simple: Taric doesn't have to be in combat to use his healing. Taric can create two separate aoes for the heal to come from, either.

LadyRenly4/20/2017, 8:54:43 PM4 votes

why are you comparing two completely different champions who do completely different things?

Taric the Gay4/20/2017, 8:57:29 PM4 votes

Good question. But more importantly, why are my mana costs so high?

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MagicFlyingLlama4/20/2017, 8:58:01 PM3 votes

Taric has a heal?

DarkRitual4/20/2017, 10:20:04 PM3 votes

Why does Rakan heal more than Taric?

Why does Taric have more invulnerability than Rakan?

Maybe they are different champs and one gets more healing because it involves a fairly low range slow moving skillshot.

Arakadia4/21/2017, 6:40:01 AM2 votes

You can't compare two abilities in a vacuum like this, it's not accurate.

Valderis Vandala4/20/2017, 10:24:27 PM2 votes

Maybe its because Taric is a shield bot instead of a heal bot, maybe its because he has a easier time covering more people with it, maybe its because he doesn't have to get close and hit enemies with it in order to get the heal? Maybe they are completely different champions with different strengths?

Melledoneus4/21/2017, 1:55:20 AM2 votes

Taric covers a much larger area, and his heal is meant to be a rapid-fire spell to help Taric get faster resets on his abilities and whack people with his passive.

AlienPrimate4/30/2017, 4:48:58 AM1 votes

A better question is why is it so low compared to everyone's heal?

In combat at full build, Taric's heal only heals for about 100 at the cost of 140 mana.

Alistar's passive heals for 278 Bard's W uncharged heals for about 200 for 90 mana Fiora's R heals for about 600 without hitting any vitals for 100 mana Janna's R heals for about 1k for 100 mana Kayle's W heals for about 400 for 90 mana

I'm sick of looking these up now so I'm stopping there, but you should get my point.

crzymdscntst4/30/2017, 5:13:52 AM1 votes

Taric's heal per charge makes him a slightly less reliable healer.

His heal is weird in that it's determinate based on it's stacks. Where max stacks is your best heal period. Arbitrarily I'm not sure I really think it's the power of the heal that really matters, but the mana cost and dependency on Bravado. Though Bravado should really be feeding into his charges a bit better, so that an engaged Taric is able to keep his heal pretty reliable.

Romenji9/13/2017, 4:27:46 PM1 votes

Taric can now heal every single auto attack, meaning infinitely so long as he has mana. Rakan's heal needs a significant buff compared to literally every other support that can heal, rakan's base stats are to low and rakan's scaling is horrifyingly low

Handy Sandy 4/20/2017, 9:07:14 PM1 votes

Why is Soraka's healing so high compared to Ahri's passive :(

Spareatick4/20/2017, 9:02:35 PM1 votes

It's because they aren't the same champion. I know that sounds stupid and obvious but let me explain. When they are deciding how much a champions heal is gonna do they look at the ability it's on in the first place. Is it just a heal or does it have other effects? Is it aoe or single target? Targeted or skill shot? Is it on an ultimate? So on and so forth. Then they have to also look at the rest of the champions kit. What other forms of utility does the champion have? What type of play style is this champion meant to have? So on and so forth. So basically there is no simple answer. The numbers they put on a champion's abilities are not determined by looking at similar abilities, but rather by looking at the champion as a whole and deciding what numbers are going to be balanced with the entire kit in mind.

Calabok4/21/2017, 1:56:19 AM1 votes

Why do birds sing so gray?

Cavemantero4/21/2017, 1:57:55 AM1 votes

Its because Rakan is new and they want to sell skins. Taric is the old gay uncle now and not so cute anymore. Even after the plastic surgery, he looked kind of messed up. I think after plastic surgery your skin doesn't heal so well so that's probably it.