7.5 on the PBE is the most gameplay-pandering patch I've ever seen.

Rock MD·Feb 23, 2017·20 votes·2,651 views

DISCLAIMER: not saying these aren't good changes. I'm pointing out they're geared towards almost everything that's a hot topic here.

We have

-Recall animations for champs that don't have them -Aatrox finally getting changes -Fizz ult getting much less buggy -LeBlanc nerfs -Nerfs to EoN (CD back to 45 seconds as well as the active getting halved in duration) as well as almost every Lethality abuser besides Jhin (who got a nerf to his ulti slow this patch) -Ryze's targeted snare is getting halved in duration -DORAN'S FUCKING SHIELD getting buffed -And they're nerfing Exhaust

I swear to every god in every religion in ya'll still manage to find a reason to complain I'm gonna be hella disappointed.

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Valor BotFeb 23, 201725 votes

{quoted}I swear to every god in every religion in ya'll still manage to find a reason to complain I'm gonna be hella disappointed.

But Graves' ciga–

Rock MDFeb 23, 201712 votes

[{quoted}](name=Valor Bot,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6TOWIrTV,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-02-23T01:41:02.413+0000)

But Graves' ciga–

I hate you.

RebonackFeb 23, 20176 votes

Dominion still doesn't exist.

Rest of the changes are nice, though.

Wînter FoxFeb 23, 20175 votes

Malzahar is still a disaster tho

INoble KnightIFeb 23, 20173 votes

Lethality needs nerfed not the champs or exhaust.

God RaijinFeb 23, 20171 votes

The -10 armor and mr reduction honestly should go or be reduced on summoner 3 imo, it's probably the biggest cock block summoner in the game; Why should it also let you and your teammates have an easier time killing people? I mean, too many people have the mentality of "Poor me! what will I do if my precious last line of defense gets nerfed?"

But no..

don't forget that you can walk the fuck up to people with it, slow them for 2.5 seconds to have your team catch up and kill them. Or damn, why not! how about kill them yourself now that they cant fight back and their resistances are lowered.

Exhaust is strong offensively and defensively and it's not on a very long cooldown. Something should probably go

lolipopevelynnFeb 23, 20173 votes

{quoted}

DISCLAIMER: not saying these aren't good changes. I'm pointing out they're geared towards almost everything that's a hot topic here.

We have

-Recall animations for champs that don't have them -Aatrox finally getting changes -Fizz ult getting much less buggy -LeBlanc nerfs -Nerfs to EoN (CD back to 45 seconds as well as the active getting halved in duration) as well as almost every Lethality abuser besides Jhin (who got a nerf to his ulti slow this patch) -Ryze's targeted snare is getting halved in duration -DORAN'S FUCKING SHIELD getting buffed -And they're nerfing Exhaust

I swear to every god in every religion in ya'll still manage to find a reason to complain I'm gonna be hella disappointed.

They will go back to bitching about cait and ahri, trust me.

Golden Tager XFeb 23, 20173 votes

Jungle

I think I have said enough.

Patch 7.6?

Rengar Top LaneFeb 23, 20173 votes

Not to disappoint you, but I'm still going to complain about the Rengar rework all the way to my grave. Lacks enjoyment and it's broken. What a destructive combination that will wipe out an entire population of Rengar mains.

KeevalroyFeb 23, 20172 votes

I swear to every god in every religion in ya'll still manage to find a reason to complain I'm gonna be hella disappointed.

Uhh...yeah, there's still plenty to complain about so be as disappointed as you'd like.

I will say though, as someone who has had serious problems with their direction for a looong time, these are very welcome changes. Some aren't exactly hitting the nail on the head, for example: masteries are taking a damage hit, when the issues are the masteries themselves, more specifically keystones, and then there's things like the D-Shield buff (Mmkay that's uhh...that's a liiiiitle bit too strong, but at least you recognize that) that addresses how weak it is compared to other starters, but it's something good for a change.

Critmaster GarenFeb 23, 20172 votes

are the item 1054 changes actually buffs?

i mean its losing its 8 flat damage reduction against auto attacks. thats pretty huge. basically after taking 3 hits, the health increase becomes worse than the damage absorption.

the health regen is going up significantly, and you can afford another pot. so thats good i guess.

i guess the item is worse when it comes to early all ins and better against consistent poke.

Rock MDFeb 23, 20174 votes

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are the changes actually buffs?

i mean its losing its 8 flat damage reduction against auto attacks. thats pretty huge. basically after taking 3 hits, the health increase becomes worse than the damage absorption.

the health regen is going up significantly, and you can afford another pot. so thats good i guess.

i guess the item is worse when it comes to early all ins and better against consistent poke.

The way I see it champions who have bad earlies are gonna have an easier time pushing lanes endlessly while being safer from poke with the 2 pots, 20 extra health, health regen, and +minion damage.

RocketRelmFeb 23, 20172 votes

Plus, Donger. At lvl 4, each 100% Base HP Regen is 3 HP per second to him. I could totally see him either starting with it, or getting it on his first back.

CremepieFeb 23, 20171 votes

god Vlad is gonna love this item.

ÈvilMortyFeb 23, 20172 votes

I dont think exhaust should be nerfed when damage is so high and assassins can one shot everyone

deadlychuckFeb 24, 20172 votes

Malzahar >.> nope

-And they're nerfing Exhaust

WTF really? FUCK THAT. Increase the time to kill, don't nerf the shit which actually still manages to increase it. If you doubled the average time to kill in the game, then exhaust would be, in effect, nerfed. [slayer-jinx-unamused]

Papa SlothyFeb 24, 20171 votes

exhaust is broken tho

deadlychuckFeb 24, 20172 votes

Relatively yes it is, because fights are so short, basically doubling the time to kill is broken.

Instead of "fixing" the ability to double the time to kill, increase the average time to kill, and it no longer relatively double the time to kill.

Big LincolnFeb 23, 20171 votes

-Ryze's targeted snare is getting halved in duration

was hoping it'd be a skillshot tbh. or delayed, or something.

Is EW still a 2 second snare, do you know?

Rock MDFeb 23, 20171 votes

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was hoping it'd be a skillshot tbh. or delayed, or something.

Is EW still a 2 second snare, do you know?

I do not know, I assume it stays 2 seconds though.

ErockandrollFeb 23, 20172 votes

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I do not know, I assume it stays 2 seconds though.

Not sure about that.

My understanding is that his E interaction with his W only doubles the Duration. So if his Snare is halved, his enhanced snare should also be halved. (Don't quote me on this though)

Rock MDFeb 23, 20171 votes

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Not sure about that.

My understanding is that his E interaction with his W only doubles the Duration. So if his Snare is halved, his enhanced snare should also be halved. (Don't quote me on this though)

Yeah I figured that as well but I was like, "Yeah Riot is gonna wait to reward Ryze for 'good play' and the 1 second snare seems kinda low ehhhh.... best just not jump to conclusions Riot's gonna go all out on this one."

Sagan ForeverFeb 23, 20172 votes

Yep ryze is officially with azir having a great time being a bottom feeder champion, not like he already was not a bottom feeder. I never understood ryze hate, I mean I assume the boards is not made up of challenger and professional players where he is great, unlike the fact that he is utter shit for 95% of players plus.

Rock MDFeb 23, 20171 votes

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Yep ryze is officially with azir having a great time being a bottom feeder champion, not like he already was not a bottom feeder. I never understood ryze hate, I mean I assume the boards is not made up of challenger and professional players where he is great, unlike the fact that he is utter shit for 95% of players plus.

I mean I'm D3 so I play against some actually good Ryzes.

Zephyrous XFeb 23, 20171 votes

Aatrox is still shit though

Craft ZeppelinFeb 23, 20171 votes

Well they removed near over a potential 100 base damage off leblancs W and knocking off like 20% apratio. I know they are still experimenting but damn that is harsh. Like they are making her passive reliant than ever.

JoxcabFeb 23, 20171 votes

In return her Q damage got doubled basically.

Craft ZeppelinFeb 23, 20173 votes

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In return her Q damage got doubled basically.

Thats only to minions. If im not mistaken.

ragdollomegaFeb 23, 20171 votes

From what was shown in the pbe her Q base and scaling were doubled and her damage modifier against minions was doubled as well.

Craft ZeppelinFeb 23, 20171 votes

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From what was shown in the pbe her Q base and scaling were doubled and her damage modifier against minions was doubled as well.

Man, well that is...something. As a leblanc player I like using my Q often rather than going rugby-style as a mage. Sounds good. It also adds some sort of predictability for the opposing player.

OelykFeb 23, 20171 votes

Talon nerfs. You shoulda seen that Talon discord it was in uproar.

TaliyahcFeb 23, 20171 votes

Feels when youre a leblanc main...

Btw its honestly not a leblanc nerf, they just shifted damage from w to q which is weird considering she likes to zone with q as it is anyway, idk i dont see it as a nerf.

AesteriaFeb 23, 20172 votes

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Feels when youre a leblanc main...

Btw its honestly not a leblanc nerf, they just shifted damage from w to q which is weird considering she likes to zone with q as it is anyway, idk i dont see it as a nerf.

It is not a shift of damage. It's a nerf. The Q damage buff is only against minions, not champions. And it won't change her waveclear as you lose the damage on W so Q "buffs" would just balance that damage loss out vs minions.