what is the counterplay to trynda?

FastAsHeck··3 votes·1,877 views

because I honestly have no idea how to beat him and I feed horribly EVERY time I face him, with ANY champ I'm playing. So, because afk'ing is not an option for me, I want to learn if anyone knows how to beat him... if its even possible that is.

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Orbv4 votes

Before anyone says "Hard CC", that's a long term solution.

For laning, you must engage him early, A LOT. Do not let him hit CS without hitting him with an ability or auto attack. Also, do not engage him when he has his fury bar 75 - 100% full, his crits will occur.

For fighting in general, have someone who can reposition. Tryn can, but he most likely will use his gap closer to get to you. Never be the first to make up the difference. Also he has a slow, but only if you face away from him. If you see him, try to constantly run, about face, and run to increase the chances of his slow just becoming an AD reducer and him wasting it.

When it comes to late game, the only way to beat him is to burst him so that he's forced to ult, and then ignore him damage-wise but STILL CC him to keep him around.

A common mistake is not fighting him because he has his ult up. You NEED for him to use his ult, or else he'll win, so do what you need to to force it. CC doesn't prevent his activation, but I would save the CC for when he does use it. Then another mistake, which everyone is aware that they do, is that when his ult is up, people keep fighting him trying to get that last hit. His ult lasts a LONG time, when it is up, focus your damage on someone else. But if you let him get away, he'll heal it back.

Lost R1 votes

It doesn't last THAT long, but I do hold off on my crowd control until he activates it. Lulu's polymorph at max level lasts for almost the entire duration of his ult. It destroys him.

Up until level 6, he can get kited and poked very easily by anyone with a ranged skill. The problem is level 6 comes too quickly, and I've seen too many people try to engage him in a slugfest and last through the pain long enough to kill him. I've never seen it work, but people keep doing it.

In this assassin heavy meta, though, where everyone is all in and nothing else, Tryndamere thrives.

aaronautumn2 votes

let him push 2 ur tower and farm under it

Laughing Fish2 votes

item 3075

Dracid1 votes

play someone who can bully him pre 6. Rivens a good example. If you can get ahead before he hits 6 then you should be fine the rest of the way

NemeBro1 votes

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play someone who can bully him pre 6. Rivens a good example. If you can get ahead before he hits 6 then you should be fine the rest of the way

Tryndamere DESTROYS Riven.

His level 2 all in crit cheese annihilates her. And once Tryndamere gets first blood on Riven, there is almost nothing she can do. Tryndamere is going to outfarm, outfight, outpush, and outscale her.

Dracid1 votes

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Tryndamere DESTROYS Riven.

His level 2 all in crit cheese annihilates her. And once Tryndamere gets first blood on Riven, there is almost nothing she can do. Tryndamere is going to outfarm, outfight, outpush, and outscale her.

lol what? Tryn destroys riven? haha right. bronze 5 detected. sorry but Riven Destroys Tryn early on. Her level 3 all in shits on him. learn the game please

NemeBro1 votes

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lol what? Tryn destroys riven? haha right. bronze 5 detected. sorry but Riven Destroys Tryn early on. Her level 3 all in shits on him. learn the game please

You're not even ranked, and when you were ranked you were the same place I was. Be a little less stupid in the future little guy.

Oh yeah?

http://champion.gg/champion/Riven

That explains Riven's 46% win rate against Tryndamere plat and up, right?

Riven has a stronger level 1 and 3. Tryndamere's level 2 all in is much stronger, especially if he gets it first, and even if he doesn't kill Riven he can just easily farm and massively outscale.

Be mad.

Dracid1 votes

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You're not even ranked, and when you were ranked you were the same place I was. Be a little less stupid in the future little guy.

Oh yeah?

http://champion.gg/champion/Riven

That explains Riven's 46% win rate against Tryndamere plat and up, right?

Riven has a stronger level 1 and 3. Tryndamere's level 2 all in is much stronger, especially if he gets it first, and even if he doesn't kill Riven he can just easily farm and massively outscale.

Be mad.

uh huh. Riven just stays back while hes level 2. doesn't take long to hit level 3 and she has all the way to level 6 to stomp on him. learn the game please

NemeBro1 votes

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uh huh. Riven just stays back while hes level 2. doesn't take long to hit level 3 and she has all the way to level 6 to stomp on him. learn the game please

B-b-but what if Tryndamere just stays back while she's level 3? Oh, and let's not ignore that unlike Riven, Tryndamere actually has some sustain.

I'm sorry that I've proven you wrong and you're upset about it. Here, this should help.

Dracid1 votes

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B-b-but what if Tryndamere just stays back while she's level 3? Oh, and let's not ignore that unlike Riven, Tryndamere actually has some sustain.

I'm sorry that I've proven you wrong and you're upset about it. Here, this should help.

you havnt proven anything, Riven shits on Tryn early on. Just because you don't know how to play riven doesn't mean she doesn't. sorry you're bad?

NemeBro1 votes

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you havnt proven anything, Riven shits on Tryn early on. Just because you don't know how to play riven doesn't mean she doesn't. sorry you're bad?

Only she loses most games against him. Tryndamere counters Riven.

Stay mad.

Dracid1 votes

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Only she loses most games against him. Tryndamere counters Riven.

Stay mad.

not mad at all lol why would I be mad against someone whos shit at this game xD cya noob

NemeBro1 votes

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not mad at all lol why would I be mad against someone whos shit at this game xD cya noob

How does it make you feel to know that I haven't been playing as long and yet am higher rank than you are now?

Dracid1 votes

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How does it make you feel to know that I haven't been playing as long and yet am higher rank than you are now?

how does it feel to know I don't play ranked but play normal with my friends which our normal MMR is equal to gold/plat? get rekt :)

NemeBro1 votes

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how does it feel to know I don't play ranked but play normal with my friends which our normal MMR is equal to gold/plat? get rekt :)

How does it feel to know that you're not smart enough to debate without immediately resorting to ad hominems (a word you are not smart enough to know)? How does it feel to know that you're insecure, because you have to bring up rank in an argument to make you feel better about yourself?

Oh, and no one cares about normals, though your recent win rate in those isn't very good either.

And didn't you bring up rank here first? Now it doesn't matter? Stay consistent.

Stay mad (I know you're mad because you're still responding after you said you were done). Also, capitalize the first letter in your sentences. You're presumably above the age of 13.

Dracid1 votes

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How does it feel to know that you're not smart enough to debate without immediately resorting to ad hominems (a word you are not smart enough to know)? How does it feel to know that you're insecure, because you have to bring up rank in an argument to make you feel better about yourself?

Oh, and no one cares about normals, though your recent win rate in those isn't very good either.

And didn't you bring up rank here first? Now it doesn't matter? Stay consistent.

Stay mad (I know you're mad because you're still responding after you said you were done). Also, capitalize the first letter in your sentences. You're presumably above the age of 13.

yorue bad and you should feel bad ;)

NemeBro1 votes

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yorue bad and you should feel bad ;)

*you're

Dracid1 votes

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*you're

already out of things to say so you correct a simple spelling mistake. stay bad kid

NemeBro1 votes

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already out of things to say so you correct a simple spelling mistake. stay bad kid

Irony.

LaserDeathBlade1 votes

Lol... plenty of options: a. ) Counter pick him b. ) Ask for early ganks c. ) Quit building Tank, you'll never kill him by building Tank d. ) Run away when he ults then throw an ignite on him at 4 seconds e. ) Don't let him charge fury

Only Play Darius3 votes

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c. ) Quit building Tank, you'll never kill him by building Tank

Nasus

LaserDeathBlade1 votes

You build damage by stacking that Q, if you don't get stacks you'll still never kill him

Only Play Darius2 votes

I was just saying that Nasus counters him in lane, and builds straight tank.

3TWarrior1 votes

"if you don't get stacks"

also, his slow can reduce movement speed by a ton...you end up practically standing still while fighting nasus

Petiovski1 votes

You typically want to try and bully trynda early on when his rage bar is slow, this way you can out trade him due to his dependence on the rage bar giving him bonus ad and crit chance. It will also force him to use that rage bar to heal himself over keeping it full and hitting you with big crits. You may need to babysit top if he begins to split push later in the game, if he is fed, a thorn mail is very good along with frozen heart and randuins.

Kivolan1 votes

Anything with a stun / root / slow to keep him in place / kite him when he uses Undying Rage.

Lissandra is a pretty solid pick vs him.

Nasus can just wither him and farm away.

Teemo / Quinn can just blind him.

Kazaashi1 votes

I usually take Azir against him top and It works pretty well, if you understand positioning and don't let him jump on you.

FastAsHeck1 votes

thanks everyone! honestly my issue is not ranked though... in ranked i can counterpick. but i love playing normals too, especially for champions im not so good at.

3tyson1 votes

counterplay to him is easy dont listen to the guy telling you to farm under tower cause he wil kil you under

dont let him get rage this is easy by playing a champ like Teemo because he has a blind another really easy counter is Chogath since he can ult squeeshys to death around half hp he has a silence wich stops tryndamere from ulting what you do is fight him silence him a bit before hes half hp than he cant ult you ult and hes death

but in case you are not counterpicking because of teambuilder or w/e you poke and kite if he ults you kite for 5 seconds and than hes left without anny hp and you can kil him easy

or you cc him when he ults summoner 3 summoner 3

Orbv1 votes

Tryndamere can ALWAYS ult. It is not affected by CC.

Malix Farwin1 votes

Basically need an strong early game top laner to shut him down early.

GundayMonday1 votes

Big fan of champion.gg for questions like this. The site takes a breakdown of all high level games with that champion, and show what's working well and poorly with that champion. Bottom left chart has champions tryndamere does poorly against.

http://champion.gg/champion/Tryndamere

Tanky champs with crowd control that can keep him out of auto attack range seem to do well against him lately.

Troy2426211 votes

He's not OP, but that "I rolled the dice and got lucky so you lose the trade," is really annoying.

AmazingGoat1 votes

Play Ryze. Chain root him. Problem solved.

Nasus and Sion are traditional tanks that do fine against him. Kayle can fight invuln with invuln and come out ahead. Poppy can outscale (anyone).

Shrek Luigi1 votes

Armor and an IQ of 20 or greater.

BigPooStorm1 votes

I always find Nasus to be a good match up against him, I honestly don't think I've ever lost against a Tryndamere. Early game it might get a bit difficult since you are weak, and he can chunk you. But if you are in any kind of trouble, wither fucks him hard since he is AA reliant, and you can just run away from him. Once you get FH and some stacks, it get's pretty easy to duel him. If he tries to go on you, just wither, E + Q and chunk him for 1/3 his HP.

Not to mention you outscale him pretty quickly if you don't feed him out of control, and from that point, he can't really split push since you can 1v1 him easily.

Emperor Time1 votes

play a ranged champion.

IcyPepper1 votes

Bait the ult out and time it so you hit him the second it ends.

Learned that one from Dunkey.

Bârd1 votes

randuins, fh, thornmail, watch him cry

NemeBro1 votes

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randuins, fh, thornmail, watch him cry

If you're stacking all those armour items you might just get melted by the AP mid though.

The only champions I can think of who can have those three items and then make do with a single damage item (which is to say, actually do damage in the game) or less to get some magic resist are Nasus, Irelia, and people who can build pretty much full tank like Sion. I could be forgetting someone though.

As for champions that can specifically counter Tryndamere:

Nasus Pantheon Malphite

Come to mind.

Lugg1 votes

Take summoner 14 hit him a couple seconds into his ult and watch him die at the end of his ult every time.

Rabid Husky1 votes

i play trynda and its hilarious when i see people rage cuz i keep beating em

best thing i can suggest other than cc him is be aggressive as hell get the jungler to gank when he can show no respect its all over at lv 6 at lv 6 forword is hes even keeping up and building crit stun him and run if he has team members with him try to kill them first if you cant just run his ult has 1:30 cd and last for about 5ish seconds give or take plus he has a gap close/escape that gets cd reduction when he auto attacks

remember trynd is a crit machine hes a melee adc with more damage the lower his hp best thing i can suggest is get as far ahead as you can or be teemo/quinn both counter trynd so hard since they can deny him farm and fury stacks wich means less gold+less crit chance luckly both are top laners my only other suggestion is armor out the ass jax is also a good counter since he has dodge that stuns plus if your not winnin you can leap away now as for everyone else id suggest tanks and building ninja tabi and armor asap sion isnt bad since he has cc but remember trynd will ult if hes ccd he ults right through the pain

basicly trynd is easely countered hes not op but he is strong hope this helps

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