mid AP nautilus is just really cheap

Craft Zeppelin··3 votes·1,906 views

How many times do we have to tell you riot to buff his tankiness and not his damage? It feels so cheap when he just activates aftershock with a point and click and uses E to nuke you to death. It is not a fun experience at all.

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Sir Prepuzius4 votes

i disagree, humiliating a katarina in lane was really fun. and aniway whats wrong on giving some versatility to champions, why naut shouldnt be viable outside of his tank role?

Craft Zeppelin3 votes

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i disagree, humiliating a katarina in lane was really fun. and aniway whats wrong on giving some versatility to champions, why naut shouldnt be viable outside of his tank role?

"Versatility" More like abusing some poorly made math decisions that proved problematic for Nautilus time and time. Point click cc with huge aoe and nuke ratios is hardly "fun" or "good" for the sake of the game all the while being unkillable.

Haven't we had this argument already about what happened to Galio?

Exin02 votes

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"Versatility" More like abusing some poorly made math decisions that proved problematic for Nautilus time and time. Point click cc with huge aoe and nuke ratios is hardly "fun" or "good" for the sake of the game all the while being unkillable.

Haven't we had this argument already about what happened to Galio?

And isnt this whole thing just result of constant QQ especialy of top players? Riot gut defense dump true damage everywhere and now you have this fiesta. You pick nautilus and have two options going tank and have boring game and still melt if enemy have something like riven vayne etc. or go full wham and have chance to do something in game, you still melt like snowflake on desert but you can take someone with you. Iam not fan of tanks becoming burst mages but every change in game touching tanks was another step toward this nonsense practicaly forcing them to go AP.

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

Sounds like more like assassins killing mages, between their sudden massive damage and easily to escape mobility.

boricCentaur12 votes

Riot needs to stop giving tanks high ap radios. Like it has never work once and only causes problems.

Craft Zeppelin1 votes

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Riot needs to stop giving tanks high ap radios. Like it has never work once and only causes problems.

Decent ratios are ok. But once you give them mage-like waveclear it also means their ratios are now bonkers. And they oneshot you once they initiate. I got killed today by a ap nautilus even if I was like 2 kills, 20 cs and a level ahead. Just because he flashed and ulted me. Its boring and cheap with literally no skill or knowledge involved. Even if I won that game it felt so bullshit.

Ilovemobas2 votes

Naut has been really lackluster for some time i am surprised you think alkali, leblanc, vaine and riven are totally fair champions...

Craft Zeppelin2 votes

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Naut has been really lackluster for some time i am surprised you think alkali, leblanc, vaine and riven are totally fair champions...

That doesn't mean AP nautilus should be forgiven. And at least Akali/Leblanc/Riven needs some sort of commitment. In this case it is literally "press R BIG DAMAGE U KILL GG"

Tioym1 votes

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Naut has been really lackluster for some time i am surprised you think alkali, leblanc, vaine and riven are totally fair champions...

Winrates do not mean Everything but when Nautilus has a 52% winrate and Akali has a 44% winrate it is quite clear which champion is fair and which one is not. Yes Akali is hard to play so people int on her. On the other hand Nautilus is easy as hell to play, a newbie can pick him up and instantly start destroying. I've played vs Nautilus as akali and there is 0 counterplay to Naut's combo. No one is talking about Vayne/Riven/LB in this thread don't change the topic and face it. Naut is braindead broken and needs a NERF.

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