Is there any reason Camiles jumps walls at the speed of light?

fuffychan·Dec 19, 2016·5 votes·420 views

I thought Riot was all about counterplay but when the jump moves so fast it may as well be targeted Im not seeing the counterplay here.

9 Comments

RalanrDec 19, 20163 votes

It's not that fast.

Handy Sandy Dec 19, 20163 votes

Counterplay? Well it's not like she has many escape options once she's in.

YagoDec 20, 20162 votes

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Counterplay? Well it's not like she has many escape options once she's in.

E has almost no cooldown. So, between that and the untargetability and her ridiculous bulk, yes, she has plenty of tools to get out, unless she dives in EXTREMELY poorly. It's like saying Lee has no way out if he engages with W > Q. He still has his R and his W will be back up before you pop him most of the time. It's technically true...not realistically, though.

ÇhåryzårdDec 20, 20162 votes

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E has almost no cooldown. So, between that and the untargetability and her ridiculous bulk, yes, she has plenty of tools to get out, unless she dives in EXTREMELY poorly. It's like saying Lee has no way out if he engages with W > Q. He still has his R and his W will be back up before you pop him most of the time. It's technically true...not realistically, though.

..wh...what?

It's got a 16-10 second base cooldown depending on her level...

16 seconds is nowhere near "no cooldown"

YagoDec 20, 20163 votes

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..wh...what?

It's got a 16-10 second base cooldown depending on her level...

16 seconds is nowhere near "no cooldown"

Maxes it second most of the time, meaning it's at 10 seconds by mid-game. Oh, and she builds Trinity Force for 20% CDR, probably has 10% or so in her runes, so she can round it off to a nice 40% with Spirit Visage or a Death's Dance or a Ghostblade or a Warmog's or anything else.

Welcome to six second cooldown on a massive range escape / engage tool.

EDIT:

Ezreal's Arcane Shift: 19-13 Lucian's Relentless Pursuit: 18-14 Vi's Vault Breaker: 16-8 Jarvan IV's Demacian Standard: 13-11 Zed's Living Shadow: 22-14 Gragas's Body Slam: 16-12 Azir's Shifting Sands: 19-15

This is a random and by no means complete list of ability cooldowns for various types of champions. How many of those dash abilities can enable you to pull yourself to a wall and then hop over it? How many of them have the range? How many of those stun? How many of those can cross over thick walls, like those in mid, or by Red buff?

Her dash is incredibly powerful and has a lower cooldown than most of those abilities from Rank 1 to Rank 5.