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News flash, yes, she can proc thunderlords that easily. I literally tried it myself some time ago. Laning phase was stupid easy: an occasional auto from bush, Q, 1/4 of their health. At least I can sit behind minions against Karma, Blitz, Braum, etc. There's nothing you can do but give up cs or take the dmg if Lulu's timing her harass correctly, watching ally creep health. At that point it's up to their support to do something about it, which 8/10 times they won't, or they'll pop a Janna shield out of instinct rather than reaction, something dumb like that. This is also in plat MMR. I cannot reiterate it enough, the champ got a bit of an overhaul. Just because something isn't picked in pro play doesn't mean the champ itself isn't viable. Actually it's usually the same top 3 champs in every lane, you can't tell me every other champ is dogshit, at least in solo queue.
I'm not sure you should be proud to call yourself a Lulu main with those stats. If anything, it's a L2P issue on your end. I don't know why you're building straight up defensive items and maxing E but taking thunderlords. Your spells don't cost much and you start the game off with like what, 2.8 or 3 mana regen per second? If you're not going against Soraka or Janna, the lane shouldn't be that difficult. Your auto range is good and you can harass freely for days. If the ADC responds, okay, pop shield, free trade. You still end up retaining most of your mana. My weakness with her lies in teamfights, so it's not my go-to pick. But if I'm playing with a solid early-game carry like Lucian, Draven, Jhin, or some lockdown like Cait or Jinx, it's probably freelo lol.
It's easy to do a full combo and proc thunderlords once both parties are willing to trade, so If I go in for an AA and you think 'Hey, im gonna hurt ya back!' then yes, I can just follow up that AA with an E-Q and proc it. But that's a mistake on your part. Also, you can also just hide behind minions vs Lulu, her Q does reduced damage and her passive gets blocked by your creeps. She still does some damage, but you/yoursupport should be able to do atleast the same amount of damage back to her.
And why criticise me on how I play Lulu when you don't even know how to play VS her(let alone as her). It's common for Lulu-players to put about 3 early points into E as it has a really good early-scaling. You could also put early points into Q, where you'd do more & take more damage, both routes are viable but you should always max W first. Also there's nothing wrong with the items I build, enchanter-supports in general should be building items like Redemption/Locket/ArdentCenser. Are you really suggesting I follow the same build as a Zyra/Brand on Lulu? That's just stupid.
Maybe the champions you/your support play are just generally bad VS Lulu, if you play weak earlygame ADCs with a support like Braum/Janna I can see why you're having a bad time and THINK she's OP.
