The actual problem with both Fiora and Vayne isn't their % of max health true damage

YumaS2Astral··1 votes·263 views

Is their absurd mobility.

Vayne has a low cooldown dash that is also an auto-attack reset, and on top of that has a knockback (Condemn) that can stun you if you are near a wall. Also, as an ADC she can kite anyone. Vayne's ult is also a problem if you don't have a pink ward, red trinket, or ability that can reveal enemies. This isn't even to mention her passive, which makes it difficult to run away from her if you realize you can't kill her. item 3153 active also means that it is difficult both to escape from and to stick to her.

Fiora's Lunge has an absurdly low cooldown that gets even lower when it hits an enemy. It has the same problem as Fizz's Playful/Trickster: It has a long cooldown early game, but its cooldown gets too short later in the game for what it can do. Combine Lunge with Fiora's passive and her E, and you realize that unless you have a long ranged dash (like Kha'Zix's evolved Leap) then you can't escape from her once she gets on you. It gets even worse since most Fioras buy either item 3078 or item 3071.

Everyone complains about Fiora and Vayne's damage, when the actual problem with both of them are their insane mobility and self-peel in Vayne's case and sticking potential on Fiora's case. It is extremely difficult to kite Fiora or to escape from her, and it is extremely difficult to escape from Vayne or to get near her.

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Critmaster Garen2 votes

fiora is fine. if everything else doesnt work, you can qss her ult. you can also move into spots where she cant reach your vitals. if you put them into walls or sit in a corner, you can put 2 or 3 of them out of reach. depending on the champion you play, you can then just fight her head on.

in teamfights its rather easy to peel her off her challenged target.

she also has to get into melee range and is extremely dependent on a good riposte to win a duel. plus her mobility is almost entirely offensive. if she uses her q to get away, it puts it on a fairly long cooldown.

vayne however can deal all that damage from a distance from behind a support and a tank who can completely wall her off. and you cant even try to catch her out 1v1, because she will destroy you.

i think thats the biggest problem with her. you cant isolate her and win a fight like against other adc because she doesnt get any weaker on her own.

and forget winning against her hiding behind a braum shield.

luckmallory1 votes

No its definitely the max health true damage

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