Unfair, Unbalanced and Shitty. Unfair to certain roles.
Sacrifices made for the team are not taken into account. CS benchmark is too high for a top laner.
Just junk the whole system pls or redo the whole thing. Fire the programmer on it.
Kitty Cat Tosha6 votesYou do know you are compared to other players playing the same champion in the same lane?
Sohleks1 votesTrue but it does give a lot of brownie points for cs'ing when comparing other factors. Not that it is impossible to get S with sub optimal CS, but incredibly hard.
On the other hand by winning lane hard and fast you can have map presence and by shoving a neutral wave outside their tier 2 it'll slowly come back stacked and you lose minimal cs and that's enough time to be mid for a bit and control the jungle.
KirynDawn3 votesplayers set the benchmarks so idk how it can be too high
DrCyanide2 votesFire the programmer on it.
Yeah, fire the guy who built what one of the stat guys told him to, that'll fix everything. /s
SwiftKitten881 votesit not ALL bad..
although we had a support 
who NEVER warded never even bought a sightstone.. and somehow got an S-
which does need to be address
venomous frost1 votestop laners have highest cs in general
and how does on distinguish "dying" for the team?
the system isn't perfect, but if you want to grade people without manual review, all you can do is look at the numbers
Axe2Handle1 votesI get S ratings all the time in top lane. You on the other hand can't. I wonder why... lol
Fraggleroc1 votesI get S ratings all the time in top lane. You on the other hand can't. I wonder why... lol
by playing that handful of champs that r op? ... reason why we'll only see that handful of champs in any competition... 130 champs lol what a joke, Rito
Gimilee1 votesYeah except the benchmark is against the averages of the same champ.
Fraggleroc1 votesYeah except the benchmark is against the averages of the same champ.
I'm merely saying the system isn't accurate or helpful in any way. It changes how I play when I want an S. Selfishly.
Axe2Handle1 votesI dont even play for an S. I just get get them. Look at your average CS per game on op.gg. If I get below 6 cs per minute I consider that a bad game. You barely can get above 4-5 cs per minute. The reason why you cant get an S isnt the benchmarks. Its your mechanics.
Fraggleroc1 votesI dont even play for an S. I just get get them. Look at your average CS per game on op.gg. If I get below 6 cs per minute I consider that a bad game. You barely can get above 4-5 cs per minute. The reason why you cant get an S isnt the benchmarks. Its your mechanics.
I'm not saying I deserved S-es for all my games. We've all been thru games when we feel a teammate deserved a S rating for carrying the game but he merely got an abysmal rating. That is a flaw with the system. Judge us on the game itself, not some imaginary comparison with some other imaginary player who played the same champion on the same role. And makes all other teammates and opponents in your current game irrelevant. That can be shown to us in a chart somewhere else- we don't need to see something irrelevant to the current game at the end of a game.
Just look at Overwatch's Play of the Match system- That is something thoroughly relevant to the current game the player just played.
Fraggleroc1 votesI dont even play for an S. I just get get them. Look at your average CS per game on op.gg. If I get below 6 cs per minute I consider that a bad game. You barely can get above 4-5 cs per minute. The reason why you cant get an S isnt the benchmarks. Its your mechanics.
LIES. Of course we don't really care to "play for an S" normally. But tell that to me again when u have a Mastery6 champ and u're consciously going for Mastery 7. YOU WILL TRY TO PLAY FOR AN S.
Jbels1 votesby playing that handful of champs that r op? ... reason why we'll only see that handful of champs in any competition... 130 champs lol what a joke, Rito
You're changing the subject. This isn't about champion variety, this is about your inability to earn an S. Which can most likely be attributed to the fact that you're not performing at the level of the people playing the same champion/role as you.
AgeOfTheMage1 votesIt depends on warding, cs, role, and champs, along with kda. If it did taken into account the sacrafices, hell, i'd have tons of S+'s but nope.
Aptest1 votesOP:
Apparently other top lane players farm more, push more and make more plays, than you do.
Timethief491 voteswhich match do you mean? your 45 minute shen game with 189 cs? your 40 minute nasus game with 200 cs? your 20 minute trundle game with 80 cs? those numbers are incredible low like how do you even do that
Fraggleroc1 voteswhich match do you mean? your 45 minute shen game with 189 cs? your 40 minute nasus game with 200 cs? your 20 minute trundle game with 80 cs? those numbers are incredible low like how do you even do that
how abt my 9 win streaks right before that trundle game... way to bash someone on the low.
Manwalrus1 votesI feel like you should be more concerned with getting ranked and getting good than with champion mastery.
Fraggleroc2 votesI feel like you should be more concerned with getting ranked and getting good than with champion mastery.
until i care about ranked... The matchmaking system is atrocious too. Bad programming is all I see. U have no idea what my ranked is... the matchmaking is so bad for a solo player I have very different ranks on different servers. Been playing for 5 yrs.
Manwalrus1 votesSo what you're saying is that it's some programmer at riot's fault you're terrible, you have no concept what ranked mode actually is or that other people can actually look you up and see how boosted you are, that you're still horrible after 5 years of playing and you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about?
Fraggleroc2 votesSo what you're saying is that it's some programmer at riot's fault you're terrible, you have no concept what ranked mode actually is or that other people can actually look you up and see how boosted you are, that you're still horrible after 5 years of playing and you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about?
You say that I'm judging Riot's programmer... But you're the one to judge without knowing me at all! :P
Manwalrus1 votesI don't need to know you to check your op.gg and scroll down.
Fraggleroc2 votesI don't need to know you to check your op.gg and scroll down.
u're just another Rito worshipper... who thinks that rating system is perfect.
Manwalrus1 votesIf you're the only good person in your games and everyone else is bad then by your logic then you should not only be winning every game because there's only 4 bad players on your team and 5 an the enemy team. You should also be getting an S every game because the mastery system works in a way where it compares you to other people at your rating and how well they do. If you're going to blame Riot for you being bad go right ahead.
Fraggleroc1 votesIf you're the only good person in your games and everyone else is bad then by your logic then you should not only be winning every game because there's only 4 bad players on your team and 5 an the enemy team. You should also be getting an S every game because the mastery system works in a way where it compares you to other people at your rating and how well they do. If you're going to blame Riot for you being bad go right ahead.
what has my performance has anything to do with this. I'm saying the mastery rating system should be based on CURRENT GAME, as opposed to stats being compared on a global basis.
which part of that do u not understand? LOCAL focus vs GLOBAL... comprehende?
Manwalrus1 votesThink about what you're saying...
what has my performance has anything to do with this.
I don't know, it's not as if you get champion mastery points based on your performance or anything I'm going to dumb this down to your intelligence level since you can't seem to put together a rational paragraph, okay? YOU DO WELL IN GAME, YOU GET S. YOU DO BAD IN GAME, YOU NO GET S. Which part of that do you not understand?
Fraggleroc1 votesThink about what you're saying...
I don't know, it's not as if you get champion mastery points based on your performance or anything I'm going to dumb this down to your intelligence level since you can't seem to put together a rational paragraph, okay? YOU DO WELL IN GAME, YOU GET S. YOU DO BAD IN GAME, YOU NO GET S. Which part of that do you not understand?
I will dumb it down even further for u... It DOES NOT necessary do so right now. Because ur game is compared to other games. i.e. U know full well that your support carried your last game. Your entire team knows... but your support DID NOT get an S. Because the system is BIASED against Support Play and your support was deemed to have not "carried enough". But who cares. Your entire team wants him to earn an S to show appreciation for his good play.
Perfect system my arse.
Manwalrus1 votesAs a support main I can tell you that it isn't as biased against supports as you think, that whole argument in itself makes no sense because I have mastery 6+ on multiple supports, as does almost every other support main that actively tries to win games. I never once said it was a perfect system but comparing people to other people of a similar skill level isn't what's wrong with it. The comparison just makes sense, otherwise what statistics would they measure you against? Stop being a delusional Bronze player whining on the forums about things you don't understand. Why not actually go out, improve and get the S instead of mindlessly shouting vitriol all day?
Fraggleroc1 votesAs a support main I can tell you that it isn't as biased against supports as you think, that whole argument in itself makes no sense because I have mastery 6+ on multiple supports, as does almost every other support main that actively tries to win games. I never once said it was a perfect system but comparing people to other people of a similar skill level isn't what's wrong with it. The comparison just makes sense, otherwise what statistics would they measure you against? Stop being a delusional Bronze player whining on the forums about things you don't understand. Why not actually go out, improve and get the S instead of mindlessly shouting vitriol all day?
that shit isnt even intuitive... shit just left the whole team confused as to why a teammate didnt get an S for his awesome game. Nowhere in the system does it say u're compared to OTHER players in other games. Some voting system that is not open to abuse/exploits would be better than this shit.
And I don't play ranked at all. So how would u know i'm Bronze level. Have not played ranked for all of 5 yrs. Normal mmr is more challenging to carry than u think. It's just a shithole of a mmr system down in Norms.
Fraggleroc1 votesAll the Rito worshippers here makes me wanna puke. No wonder Rito can act the way they are. Keep throwing money at them. I stopped doing that 5yrs ago.
Manwalrus2 votesBut you continue to bitch and moan on the forums? What sense does that make?
Fraggleroc1 votesBut you continue to bitch and moan on the forums? What sense does that make?
Yes, everything is perfect your little pocket of the world.