Kindred Jungle will mean that you don't have to pick a traditional adc bot lane

PapaGreg21·Feb 19, 2016·12 votes·1,742 views

What happened to this? Have we given up on this already or are we just waiting for an LCS team to start?

43 Comments

AsphodelNextFeb 19, 20163 votes

Currently, it's more like Kindred jungle lets us fit one more ADC onto our team of Corki mid, Graves top, and Ezreal bot.

MalhammersFeb 19, 20161 votes

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Currently, it's more like Kindred jungle lets us fit one more ADC onto our team of Corki mid, Graves top, and Ezreal bot.

MF support

TrylobyteFeb 19, 20162 votes

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MF support

Ashe support. She's much better at it.

TengrichanFeb 19, 20161 votes

Ashe support died with the rework.

delonixFeb 20, 20161 votes

Actually, Ashe support was significantly stronger right after the rework. She couldn't crit, but did additional damage to champs when she slowed them. Her reworked passive allowed her to slow champs with no mana cost, her reworked hawkshot no longer had part of her power budget invested in bonus gold from minions, and she could scout anywhere on the map. Q could be activated at 1 stack and increased the slow amount.

It's the changes since the rework that have made Ashe less viable as a support. Building crit is good on her again, her slow has been reduced unless you have lots of crit, and her Q can only be activated at max stacks and doesn't increase the slow.

ModAttysu The PoroFeb 20, 20161 votes

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Currently, it's more like Kindred jungle lets us fit one more ADC onto our team of Corki mid, Graves top, and Ezreal bot.

I've seen this so many times stomp my team pls the trigger.

Aeolian MelodiesFeb 19, 20163 votes

More carries, more win

Quinn top Corki mid Graves jungle Lucian bot

ALL THE CARRIES

Mister ModestyFeb 19, 20165 votes

If you want your entire team countered by one champ.. then.. Okay Rammus

TallyZrgFeb 19, 20165 votes

Taric Fabulous idea.

Bodkins OddsFeb 20, 20162 votes

Malphite Rock solid.

RalanrFeb 20, 20162 votes

Sion : WAR!!!!!!!

charcharmunroFeb 20, 20161 votes

I remember once almost 1v1-ing a Vayne as Sion. Then their Leona showed up.

mogonkFeb 20, 20161 votes

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If you want your entire team countered by one champ.. then.. Okay

Ban Rammus. Ban Malphite. Stack armor all you want on the rest of the champions, you're still killable. Not to mention all the ADCs that do mixed damage.

Bodkins OddsFeb 20, 20161 votes

You have to ban Taric too.

RendarkanFeb 20, 20161 votes

Talon Zed Rengar Draven Sona .

Send in the assassins to squash them and eliminate as many as possible. Ult from base with Draven. Sona gets Pentakill. GG.

Yosuke ApperuFeb 19, 20162 votes

I don't know why you got downvoted. I felt this way though when adc jungling became more popular.

PapaGreg21Feb 19, 20161 votes

It's true. Now graves is better than kindred jungle meaning it is even more applicable

khorneyFeb 19, 20162 votes

kindred jungle is whack

SalronFeb 20, 20162 votes

You don't build Kindred full ADC in the jungle You become a ranged bruiser with an AoE trynd ult for your team

MalhammersFeb 19, 20161 votes

Who said this?

Sneakyy XDFeb 19, 20161 votes

Why wouldn't a team want a RAD in bottom?

CaptnJakSparrowFeb 19, 20161 votes

It doesn't work that well tbh.

Knight DevoutFeb 19, 20161 votes

Then there is the problem of "what do we pick botlane"? because, since the other team will pick adc and support (or at least it's expected), you need a botlane to stomp the support and the other adc to prevent it from scaling. Something like Xin Zhao-Leona, idk.

MrBuffingtonFeb 19, 20161 votes

Kindred jungle will still be underfed compared to a lane adc. That and there aren't that many options to take into bot lane besides an ADC; you can still structure a comp around your (only) marksman being in jungle, but it'll be very niche.

ValyrianBladeFeb 19, 20161 votes

The problem with this is that many champions have difficulty laning against ranged champions.

Kindred is a strong jungler in her (their?) own right, but overall for a team composition it makes much more sense to have your tank/bruisers as your jungle and support. CS'ing as melee = taking free harass from ranged. Trading as melee = taking free harass during the engage and disengage.

Having tried to play melee-only champions top lane and feeling like I repeatedly get destroyed by even other melee champions that simply have a ranged ability, I know how bad it would be to go up against a ranged auto attacker...

AlwaysByMySideFeb 19, 20161 votes

Wouldn't Pantheon work? There isn't a single meta marksman top laner he doesn't destroy in lane. I just don't know how he would fare in a duo lane.

PapaGreg21Feb 19, 20162 votes

I would think pantheon would be great

WombieZombieFeb 19, 20161 votes

I see people try to go jungle with adc champs, and they can't even kill the damn river crab.

PapaGreg21Feb 19, 20162 votes

To be fair, I don't think anybody can kill the river crab

10TicklerFeb 19, 20161 votes

Most people forget that Hard CC weaken's Scuttle's Ar/mr, which makes it harder for champions without CC to clear (Graves, Kindred, etc) Kindred's saved by her % HP damage, and Quinn can get away with it, because E is a displacement.

RendarkanFeb 20, 20161 votes

Graves has a knockback on Non Champion targets with his auto.

YuGiHoFeb 19, 20161 votes

We tried this with morde but his number were too high to give him a chance in a duo lane as a carry so he got nerfed and now he is too weak to go into lane vs 2 people harassing him at a range with his new shiit passive shield.

Phoenix Kotori Feb 19, 20161 votes

It takes a lot of communication and planning to make non-standards bot lanes work, which is probably why people aren't doing it.

Earl EulrichFeb 19, 20161 votes

you always could play what you want bot...but marksmen always had been the strongest laners, pushers, objective takers, scalers...

The Bíg TicketFeb 20, 20161 votes

If you don't pick a ranged adc bot lane you will get destroyed at any decent elo.

ShahamutFeb 20, 20161 votes

Lane swap?

NekusenFeb 20, 20161 votes

Lulu ADC -_ My time to shine :D_

YaskamasandwichFeb 20, 20161 votes

CHANGE CAN NEVER BE DONE BY US PEONS! Change is bad! How dare you even conceive the thought!

ÐinFeb 20, 20161 votes

Top:graves top tier damage and bruiser item synergy Mid:varus initiator Jungle:kindrid cuz jungle Adc:siver push and anti siege Support:urgot armor shred and anti assassan

Left Hook LarryFeb 20, 20161 votes

Because why wouldn't you want as many adcs on your team as you can get? Corki mid, Lucian/Ezreal adc, graves top, and kindred/quinn jg are some of the strongest champs right now