I have lost all my games I'v played today because frankly i'm playing terribly today but yolo. Looking through my match history I have noticed a common trend though. Every single game, my bot lane has lost lane and then we lost the game.
It honestly seems like bot lane is the only lane that matters. you get top and mid fed, you still lose.
AleksaTeemo6 votesIf Mid/top can snowball hard enough you can win.But thats hardly going to happen.
YoungFarmer9 votesIf Mid/top can snowball hard enough you can win.But thats hardly going to happen.
Even so most toplaners suffer to getting hard kited, even when they are fed a adc will walk over them its too hard to kill and adc through all the shit they get handed to them.
FOR JUSTICE5 votesgenerally the answer is yes but the way you conducted your test is flawed. you are pretty much correct tho
YoungFarmer5 votesgenerally the answer is yes but the way you conducted your test is flawed. you are pretty much correct tho
If I win a game where my bot lane loses I will get back to you ;). Doesnt look like thats going to happen today
NekoniClaws3 votesI recently saw a video explaining how the tank meta is making toplane hard to push either with or into tanks. It basically means if there's a tank on either side, winning bot is your best option. If you focus efforts up there you can't really even push it with Rift Herald.
Also half your team is in botlane, and you can help them in half the time it takes to help another lane. And you can still easily beat an ahead bot by 4-manning them and that'll be 'winning lane' for you- the prerequisite is there is one lane free to roam with you.
nGio1 votesI recently saw a video explaining how the tank meta
Tank meta? 
You must mean 
and 
who doesn't even build tanky anymore.
I see a few recently reworked tanks that synergize well with overall bad tank items, and then a class that is overwhelmingly dog shit.
When Twitch and Trist get nerfed, Xayah and Cait will pick up the IEs, and take their place the next day. When Sej and Cho get nerfed, Voli and Poppy aren't gonna start crushing top lane and jungle. When over 80% of a class is under performing, I wouldn't call it 'meta'.
L Psy Kongroo2 votesWell hallelujah, it only took people 7 fucking seasons to realize this. Maybe now we can finally shift some power away from ADC into the other roles?
Weasel Kensei2 votesI think I did the math breakdown on summoner school, maybe it was here...
Youre not wrong, heres why.
Five players, each one makes up 20% of the team. Two players in one lane, thats 40% of the team in one spot, almost half the team. If 40% of your team is way behind, and 40% (the enemy bot lane) of them gets way ahead, why would you expect to win? This is further exacerbated by ganks. If a jungler is camping bot lane, and getting lots of assist gold then thats a third player snowballing so 60% of the team is ahead. Next thing you know the snowballing bot lane is roaming mid, and invading the botside jg taking buffs starving out the enemy team.
This cascades into your mid getting lots of allied pressure letting them roam bot/top as the please, invade, taking enemy jg camps.
Dont mean to offend, but stratigicly camping bot is the obvious choice, and anything else is kinda foolish (assuming all lanes are of comparable ability). Also youre correct you can get top lane fed and still lose cause all that amounts to is you and the toplaner getting ahead (40% of the team) and thats going to get YOUR bot lane camped by their jg meaning their ADC, sup, jg all get snowballing (60% of their team).
Its a logistics issue. Theyre getting more gold for their side, and right now the ADC is back to being critical to team success. If you let your bot lane get screwed over, you failed the team. Im not saying ganking top is bad. By all means make sure your top is set up to dominate their lane, but dont keep going back to that well. Repeatedly hit the enemy bot lane, get every dragon, do what it takes to make sure 40% of your team (and 60% with you) are ahead.
Now, if this is how the game SHOULD be thats up for debate, but it is how the game is; bot lane is king.
Support Boyyy1 votesMy guess is that it's because bot lane has two players, two very important players, the ADC and the Support. If you can keep the enemy bot lane behind then the enemy team will lack damage and crowd control.
Sewer Side1 votesI've seen top Renekton carry harder.
Carry the lane that seems to have the best mechanics. Camping bot is pointless if your ADC doesn't realize they have to auto attak to deal most of their damage yet they play like a max range Lux
Lock On1 votesLol no. Look at my past game. Started off with a crazy strong Jhin. It's irrelevant when two lanes can't hold their own.
BoilTheOil6 votesjhin isnt a good adc
Awhegark2 votesLol upvoted cause is the hard truth. Jhin is a troll pick at the moment.
YuGiHo1 votesmid is good to cam only if you have a mage mid that is the type of mage to solo win team fights 
and just gank for mages like liss/annie/ori when they have their ult up for easy kills
Flawless Fetus1 votesIdk man. I tried hitting diamond as an adc. Usually dominated lane, but top/mid/jg always got stomped. So I was climbing incredibly slow. Xin got reworked and I decided to main jungle so I wouldn't have to deal with shit junglers. Hit diamond in a couple if weeks. Bot is the lane that I gank the least. Lol. I usually don't bother going there unless it's a sure thing. I've lost wayyy more games winning bot lane than I have getting top/mid ahead.
Thryale1 votesjust came out of a game with an enemy velkoz getting 24 kills, but my bot lane held their ground and our supp ahri earned enough gold to build ap that we managed to win regardless of their over fed velkoz
Kaìju1 votesIt's the amount of gold. Say four people dive bot at 8:30. In most situations if they aren't already under their tower with over 50% HP, they both just died. This means that the attacking team just got a double kill, first tower, and probably dragon. I can't remember the amount if gold that is exactly, but it's something that you can't match anywhere else on the map. If people want to stop making bot be the end all be all game deciding lane, one of the changes needs to be to remove some of the gold held in bot side. There is no legitament reason to not camp bot for the spicy double kill first brick and maybe dragon. And with how weak towers are you usually lose two. Because if they don't take dragon then it's a probably because they all rotated mid and just shoved that down because of how weak towers are. I noticed this issue which is a separate matter when in most of my games I realized towers fall in twos. If you win a teamfight at say 14 minutes, you generally have time to take two and a half towers. Like I'm regularly either taking or losing an inhib at 18 to 19 minutes.
OP Garen Support1 votesAs a Mid laner I cant carry the game because the enemy jungler is camping my lane nonstop. I could win the lane easy since I am good at 1 vs 1. but the junglers abuse the catchup exp. I simply cant get fed 1 vs 2 meanwhile the noob bot is feeding. Botlane and jungle was the most dominant this season. It does not help either that riot removed our warding options.
TEA Nietzsche 1 votesYep, as a toplaner I now measure my performance by how much I affected my botlane.
I TP'd bot twice and lost lane hard? I played well.
I got ganked several times and died but my jungler got botlane ahead? I played well.
I roflstomped toplane, took two turrets and made their jungler surrender top jungle but I didn't help my botlane? I played poor.
Primal Fear1 votesAs an ADC main I appreciate it when my jungler ignores botlane. Junglers are usually incompetent pieces of garbage who think that diving and dying is a good idea. If you're going to gank botlane, think it through. There's more risk tied to a 3v2 than a 2v1.
There is nothing that will tilt an ADC more than a jungler dying in his lane.
Kloqdq1 votesYou mean what players did at the beginning of the season than just stopped doing? Camp bot. 5 man it. Just throw everything at making your bot lane stupidly fed. That's how we won games at the start of season 7 but we just stopped doing that.
DuskDaUmbreon1 votesHmm. Maybe it's because 40% of the team is there, the most permanent objective buff is there, and it's the only lane with at least one guarantied squishy - making it easy for mid to roam there? And both people there tend to be powerful in late-game?
Strange. I can't imagine why camping bot is the answer. Hmm...
SilentBomber1 votesGames used to be about helping your top lane first,since top laner's TP is important for contesting around dragon.Now most of junglers neglect their top lane or mid and focus around bot lane.
Even if Top laner would scream for help the jungle would either afk farm or sit around bot lane.That is why in gold tiers and below most of the games are a clown fiesta.
Akali is SO HOT1 votesCorrect
