Second [NEW] AP jungle Item Suggestion

Nekusen··4 votes·2,320 views

So, ok AD has 2 jungle items (mostly used by different champions but still gives more specific answers for each need (and i know 1 is clearly more powerful)).

this would help champs like Fiddlesticks and others that don't quite benefit from Runeglaive

#1 item 3706 (jungler item) + item 3191

Item stats:

50 Armor 50 ability power 25% Mana regen Unique Passive Magus: Takedowns (kills or assists) will grant Magus stacks, increasing cooldown reduction by 0.5% and ability power by 0.5%, maxes at 30 stacks. Takedowns on: ● Large monsters and champions grant 1 stack. ● Rift Scuttlers grant 2 stacks. ● Dragon, Baron Nashor grant 5 stacks.

Transforms into Archmage at 30 stacks, gaining: 15 Magic pen When the user casts a spell on an enemy, debuffs on that target are extended by 15% (max 3 stacks on a target)


#2

item 3706 (jungler item) + ~~ item 3136 ~~ item 1028 +item 1052

Item stats:

200 HP 15 Magic pen 30 ability power Unique Passive Magus: Takedowns (kills or assists) will grant Magus stacks, increasing cooldown reduction by 0.5% and ability power by 0.5%, maxes at 30 stacks. Takedowns on: ● Large monsters and champions grant 1 stack. ● Rift Scuttlers grant 2 stacks. ● Dragon, Baron Nashor grant 5 stacks.

7 Comments

XIII Vanitas2 votes

AD champions have only 1 jungle item, Warrior, and it's sub-optimal for some of them (Shaco and Rengar, for example, would prefer more AoE clear, in fact they usually skip it and buy item 3077 right after they upgrade their machete into item 3713). If you're talking about the existence of Devourer, you should know that item is meant for AS (attack speed) champions, which can be AD, AP, hybrid, or tank.

Anyways, let's talk about the item you are proposing. In my opinion, it wouldn't work, because: 1- It's hard to balance gold-wise. Every jungler enchant costs 1400 gold. item 3136 is already worth 1500 gold, to which you have to add 5 AP and the Magus passive you created. This item would be worth a lot more than 1400 gold and, if its price was higher than that value, the AP mages this item is meant for wouldn't be able to buy it in time for their mid game powerspike. 2- Magic pen is useless in the jungle. The majority of jungle monsters has 0 MR (Krugs have -10 MR) and past that point magic penetration doesn't work anymore. 3- A passive stacking on an item that should grant a mid game powerspike is counterproductive.

This is just my opinion. Your idea is nice, but it's not the solution we need for mages in the jungle.

undesirable team1 votes

Sounds great, but I think that item 3931 needs to be reworked (again) the fact that champions can proc on hit effects twice seems kind of broken to me. Champions like Vayne Warwick Jax etc. Can have super damage and/or healing is kind of stupid to me. I think I'd rather have item 3154 back.

Nekusen1 votes

i get what you are saying, the "double hit" seems like an interesting concept, but just generates a big gap with champs with "on hit" effects. without adding that the extra magic damage on hit already steps into item 3707 's territory.

but the main issue is: why are AD junglers the only ones with 2 jg items when AP junglers are the ones that struggle the most?

i think this would help a lot of out of meta junglers.

Nekusen1 votes

changed stats

Nekusen1 votes

added another option

Nekusen1 votes

changed item path to match the other costs

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