Looking back to Trundle Top
The Trundle buffs are coming through soon, I'd like to get back on my old main. Hopefully there's more than Q towers, but whatever, a buff's a buff. I spammed him a lot in the last year. I started playing Nasus instead due to the meta not favoring Trundle at all (and their kits are similar, which helped). I sadly forgot how to play him effectively. I posted this on r/trundlemains, I didn't get any answers. Any help? (keep in mind this is for Top lane)
- Keystone When is Grasp better, when is Fervor better (and is there any other viable keystones for him?)
- Runes I run 9 ad reds, 9 armor yellows, 9 mr/lvl blues and 3 as quints. Is it optimal?
- Starting item In easy/medium matchups, do you take Doran's Blade, Corrupting Potion (or something else)?
- Build I usually went Ravenous, tabis, Sunfire/SV (with PD somewhere if ahead). Is it good? If not, what core items would you recommend?
- Laning phase For Nasus, the golden rule was to let the opponent push you under tower, and you basically farmed there for pretty much the whole laning phase, and ended up out scaling your opponent. Is there one for Trundle which lets you win most lanes? Can he not fall behind against Teemo/Quinn/Jayce/Darius without a lot of jungler's help?
- Post laning phase How often do you split? How often do you group?
Trundle is one of those champs who doesn't have a lot of mains, probably due to his kit being too simple. I wouldn't expect any detailed answers, but if you can provide some input based on personal experience, high elo players (if there's any?), anything. I'm willing to relearn this champion and be this dedicated main I once was.
This item should always be in your build somewhere. It gives him everything he wants and accommodates his kit perfectly.
This is another really good item on him. I wouldn't say it's mandatory, but as an immobile melee he loses nothing from building it. All good stats he can make use of. Randuin's has a weird build path now, so this item is probably the safer option regardless.
One of his best damage items imo, as it gives him everything he wants. However, you don't want to prioritize it unless you're fed (it's expensive and doesn't help with waveclear). It's a great item to have later on in the game.
This is a great item for a support build. Trundle's mana costs are real, so picking this up early gives him some freedom with his Pillar usage. I wouldn't recommend building this at top lane however, as early HP is much more important up there.
I've never been much of a fan of this item, as his ult is all he needs to shred tanks/bruisers. However, if you want some lifesteal this item makes the most of your money.
is a waste of gold imo, as he doesn't need it to do his job. He's not a carry and he doesn't scale like one. You have to give up an HP item to build this, which means you'll have less effective sustain in teamfights.
This is probably one of the best armor items right now for bruisers and it makes your 1v1 potential even stronger than it already is. I kind of want it to be nerfed because I hate seeing champs like Warwick buy it to deal with me, especially since he has a lot of sustain himself. It basically comes down to whoever builds this first wins, which is silly.
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If he's being played by anything more than a complete potato you're not winning this lane alone. Rush Tiamat, build MR, farm passively/wait for jungler, outscale.
You cannot beat her by yourself. Rush Sunfire/Tabi (or Tiamat into Deadman's Plate) and do not give her a kill. Treat her like a ranged Pantheon, play safe and outscale.
You can beat him if he's dumb enough to get in your face, but don't count on it. He gets free resistances, which gives you an edge once you hit 6. A good Jayce is hard to deal with no matter what, but fortunately his late game is highly skill reliant, and as long as he doesn't get fed he won't be that big of a deal mid-game.
is a much trickier matchup. As you can't kill him if he doesn't want you to, you can't stop him from farming, plus he outscales you in teamfights. Don't pick Trundle into him unless you're sure you can put him behind somehow.
Bad ones are pretty easy to deal with. Good ones will kite you with Q and punish you if you go in too far and take minion aggro. You lose nothing from just playing safe and farming, as you outscale him hard (you pretty much counter him just by existing). As long as you don't give him early kills, his late game is pretty much ruined as long as you ult/Q at the right times.
Don't pick him into her unless she's being played by a potato, or better yet go ahead. Some things are best learned the hard way.