I am curious if anything is in the works for Urgot. I don't even see him on the list for upcoming reworks which is a bit puzzling considering he's been out of date for quite awhile now. I think we both know that a few buffs aren't going to help him much while he still has that kit. It seems that a rework would be the only way to go. Is there anything on the horizon for our ugly friend?
RiotMeddler9 votesLong term we'll rework him. Short term we're giving him some buffs so he's in a better state in the meantime.
IAmNeverViable3 votesany plans on urgot's identity or direction he's going?
Eedat2 votesWhere does he rank in priority? Should we be expecting him after Poppy and Ryze or are there a few more champs in front of him?
SpongebobIsLife1 votesI think gangplank is in front of him.
Stars Shaper1 votesJust making him proc on-hits with Q would do a great deal with small efforts. And surely this won't make him OP
43b6aca3961 votesNo. If Urgot procced on-hits with his Q, he would be a non-skillshot version of Ezreal with longer range, halved cooldowns, and a perma slow. He would immediately go from a troll pick to pick/ban status.
ExecutorDill3 votesCan we give shen some small buffs too? Like put +25units Q range and +5 base mov speed into testing. Response is much appreciated.
RiotMeddler13 votesPlanning to hit up a couple of people about Shen this week. Will get back to you once I've got something useful to pass on.
Kingsgrave4 votesPlanning to hit up a couple of people about Shen this week. Will get back to you once I've got something useful to pass on.
Focus on making him able to jungle since just mindlessly poking with Q is why it's hard to buff him.
Making E taunt and restore energy against monsters would be a nice change.
lojician3 votesYeah champions mindlessly spamming ranged harass skills would really make top lane suck. Good thing we don't have that problem. (I'm pretty sure that's not why riot dislikes him.)
qetzel3 votes*Champions mindlessly spamming ranged harass skills that also give them enough sustain to ignore most of the ranged harass that comes their way
would really make toplane suck
lojician5 votesHe only gets healed if he hits them afterwards, genius. As if his sustain even approached ranged lifesteal in the first place. If you somehow managed to lose lane to shen on a ranged champion it's not because of him.
PotatoPrincesss3 votesHe heals if he lasthits a minion with q. So not quite true.
BeatzBoyFTW5 votesQ then autoattack will heal him actually. Q kill on a minion would only heal like a flat 5 HP.
Very Cash Money1 votesNot saying anybody is right or wrong but since you act like 5 hp is nothing lets make it up in gold!
A level 5 shen would heal 9 hp for a lasthit with the Q. One point of health is worth 2.67. 2.67*9=24.
This means that already at level 5 every minion he lasthits with Q grants him sustain worth of an additional minion. And thats assuming he did not buy any health.
At level 9 once his Q is maxed this value increases to 30g. Remember that he can Q+AA a minion to tripple that amount.
Comparing with gp's Q which gives him 8 gold at level 9 then its not half bad to lasthit dem minions with shen.
Ann Loris3 votesIf he last hits creeps with Q he doesn't ranged-harass his lane opponent with Q. To be able to harass AND sustain, he'd have to get in melee range to attack marked opponents.
I am Razgriz1 votesVlad who?
qetzel1 votesAnd when was the last time Vlad was considered a top pick?
ExecutorDill1 votesxD ... This would just be another reason for me to love you Meddler. :3 Best Rioter ever!!! and I mean it.
ExecutorDill1 votesAs for his theme, I'd like it if riot were more literal about his theme "Eye of Twilight" (like maybe him/former EoT's were connected to some sort of space entity who delegates these rules of balance and alas is the source of shen's power). It would be cool if he had some visual prowess as a ninja that ties in with his name (like how Zed is the Master of Shadows and has a shadow ability). For example [ You could rework his on-hit passive to work in coordination with his eyes like "eye reveals weakspot, swords strike it". Like 
's passive]
EDIT: any cheesy name could work for the passive like "Twilight's Gaze" or something. I just wanna say that I thought Shen was a cosmic champ when I first saw him (connection to the universe and space around him) because of his title and it would prove reason why he has limitless teleportation powers. But my flame of excitement has been withered as I have been informed that his title is just some sort of metaphor for someone who judges balance aka way boringer :/
Response on this comment is also greatly appreciated, thanks again btw xD
ILoveTiramisu1 votesPlanning to hit up a couple of people about Shen this week. Will get back to you once I've got something useful to pass on.
Shen will be buffed or reworked as a tank.... but he is a tank... so what you will do if buff doesnt work? (Sorry, but I like the fun fact about a lots of champs was reworked as tank, urgot is next????)
Rune Ocarina1 votesHey, what about Quinn. She needs some love too. So far when people ask about an obscure champ that hasn't seen the limelight for a while, Riot comments hoping to do something for that champ. Then what about Quinn? She's been a mess for a while and although playable, would really love some Riot attention!
PyroMania691 votesPlanning to hit up a couple of people about Shen this week. Will get back to you once I've got something useful to pass on.
I read this a couple of days ago and sometime between then and now I got it in my head that it had said next PBE patch... My disappointment was great after reading the new patch notes. Any chance we could get a rough estimate on a time line?
ExecutorDill1 votesSorry if I am spamming comments, but I find this feedback would be very useful: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/qURjA7Rs-someone-who-i-in-chart-of-balancing-plz-look-at-my-shen?comment=0000 
slippykitten1 votesLong term we'll rework him. Short term we're giving him some buffs so he's in a better state in the meantime.
And by 'short term' we mean what exactly? Next couple of patches, or next couple of seasons?
RiotMeddler6 votesProbably next patch or two.
Duke Anax1 votesThere are already changes uploaded to the PBE, so he will get at least something next patch.
Very Cash Money1 votesI suggest reducing his teleport time, this would make his ult a bit like in the old times where it would be unique. Right now teleport allows you to join about just as fast so you essentially just wants the shield but with a faster teleport time this would actually put pressure on your enemy since you would be able to join the fight much faster!
In addition to that i think that the new jungle item could bring him back as a jungler since he now has a reliable way of splitpushing. His problem has for a long time been that he wants to splitpush but he got no waveclear so a mobile champ would always just be able to run up shove the wave and run away again.
Xeranis Azourael1 votes[Gonna repost here as well, for better visibility, since this thread is more recent.]
Hello, Mr. Meddler, sir (& team)! =D
I have some ideas regarding a short term fix/rebalancing + QoL for 
, that may put him in a better spot, in terms of more intuitive gameplay.
It's mainly a minor kit swap between his W-Terror Capacitor & E-Noxian Corrosive Charge. I was wondering if the Movement Slow from his W-Terror Capacitor could be switched with the Armor Reduction from his E-Noxian Corrosive Charge..?
So, the abilities would now be:
While the shield is active, Urgot's attacks & missiles reduce (possibly "steals", instead?) the target's armor by 12/14/16/18/20% (same as current/live values, unless you guys intend to change it?).
Enemies afflicted by the charge have their Movement Speed reduced (possibly "stolen" as well?) by 20/25/30/35/40% (same as current/live values, unless you guys intend to change it?). Urgot's basic attacks & missiles also slow the target while they're afflicted.
My reasoning for this switch is basically the same reasoning as with Rework 
's Movement Slow shift to his E-Fracture, and Rework 
' Movement Slow shift to his Q-Barrel Roll (which I also posted about, a long time ago: Gragas - Switch Enemy Speed Debuffs .)
Thematic cohesiveness/intuitive logic
Using a spell that activates a shield (W-Terror Capacitor), just to be able to use its Movement Slow function, just isn't intuitive in terms of gameplay. And swapping these functions in his kit would certainly make his gameplay become more intuitive & improve his learning curve.
Also, using a spell that looks very chromatically similar to 
's W-Venom Cask (E-Noxian Corrosive Charge), but doesn't slow, is just plain confusing (especially for players who like to play both champions - - and are trained to think that the abilities are consistent with each other).
Additional Fixes:
Allow Urgot to move while casting Q & E. (QoL Fix, for more intuitive gameplay; helps with learning curve/improving gameplay skills. I don't remember if he can, or can't, as I haven't yet..'retested' him this week & it's been forever since I've played him, but it doesn't look like he can from his videos.)
[R] - Hyper-Kinetic Position Reverser: Both Urgot & the suppressed target are untargetable until the reversal channel is completed. Reasoning: This helps solidify the.."fantasy" (original intention/design/vision?)..of the ult, so that it doesn't simply turn into a glorified Root/Stun, allowing both teams to kill the champions being reversed, while the reversal is still in progress. Instead, it forces both teams to wait for the reversal's channel to end, & decide whether to engage a teamfight, peel for/protect their displaced teammate, somehow manage both, or disengage & leave their teammate to die. ("Counterplay"?)
(Trying to think of what else to say, to further flesh-out my ideas, but that's all I've got. I think I've said it all?)
Anyways, I hope you guys consider implementing these fixes for Urgot! =D He's a fun champ that I want to unlock & play more often (especially with his Battlecast skin! =D ), but the current state of his kit has kept me from playing him to the best of my abilities, and my proposed changes would certainly allow me (& possibly others) to play him better.
(I also have some ideas for his larger rework, but I'll save them for when the official thread for that appears.)
Thank you for your time & for reading this! =D
Kingsgrave1 votesLong term we'll rework him. Short term we're giving him some buffs so he's in a better state in the meantime.
Any thoughts about doing this for Yorick?
Changing his E to physical, higher base mana, possibly some buffs to make him a better jungler since his problems stem from being an oppressive laner?
Major Sparkles1 votesNOOOOOOOOOOOOO Don't change Urgot. :*( Buffs are fine. Just no more reworks...
LilxPaprika1 votesplease have a look at this: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/KL0NuLWE-possible-fix-for-shen-taunt-width
here's a visual
portion that stuns could be a slow instead or root.
also could you please take a look at this rageblade item buff proposal: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/8jYUcT34-rageblade-back-in-action
it would suit shen very well.
Duke Anax1 votesI hope you don't change him too much, I really like about him that he is a unique kind of Marksman, like Teemo. Not one that is best suited as botlane ADC, but he makes a great Toplane Fighter or Jungler.
He is one of those few champs that is different, so people need to be a bit more creative. this promotes diversity.
I think he mostly needs a visual rework so that more people are willing to pick him and figure out what he can do.
Dehitay1 votesActually, I think all you need to do to make Urgot competitive is increase his range to 525 like the low end adcs.
9Lyves1 votes@Meddler Can we give Varus some small buffs to? Or will there be any Varus buffs incoming soon by any chance?