Remade and broken.
was completely healthy but got huge buffs.
old nidalee mid syndrome, still no nerfs.
buffs. Because average joe can't play him right he gets free buffs.
Is strong. Better nerf kayle. Just kayle.
I gave up on ranked.Better stay at plat than get a loss if your captain doesn't ban the 4 brokenaughts.
Gigahappytown3 votesDon't forget viktor and jinx who completely outclass their respective roles.
Big Lincoln2 votesthey're not even broken?
their numbers are too high for how little their costs are
Cenobite Azaziel1 votes[{quoted}](name=Solomon Money,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5zy1nILb,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-09-11T14:24:05.707+0000)
they're not even broken?
their numbers are too high for how little their costs are
You can say their numbers are broken. Not their kit. I consider darius more toxic than before.
Big Lincoln1 votesthat's still not true, considering numbers can be easily tuned
you're entitled to your opinion but I think you're wrong, i find laning vs him much more bearable when i go top
disregardable1 votesAre you a riven main? Because she's the only one that even stands a chance at out lane bullying him. And she can still lose.
Big Lincoln2 votesno? when i go top i play 
darius was a lot harder to lane against before the rework. i don't need to out-bully him, it's a given that he's going to win most lengthy trades. If you can't get in and out before he can ramp up his damage, then don't fight him at all and focus on outfarming him
disregardable3 votesyou call "try to outfarm the late game melee carry" and "don't fight him" meaningful counterplay...
Big Lincoln1 votesif you're not going to beat someone in a trade, are you going to trade with them?
i already said his numbers were probably too high early game, that's literally his biggest issue. for someone who snowballs so hard, it's actually pretty easy to secure a big lead with a level 2-3 forced trade to shove them off. his damage should be lowered early game so that he's less encouraged to play aggressively
shadecrapper1 votesDat good old "stay away from him" counter play
KONO RUBICK DA1 votes[{quoted}](name=Very Toxic Jinx,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5zy1nILb,comment-id=000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-09-11T14:38:35.786+0000)
you call "try to outfarm the late game melee carry" and "don't fight him" meaningful counterplay...
who is a melee carry?
Heimerchina2 votesbuffing non-dash cham make the game MUCH MORE HEALTHY!!!
Cenobite Azaziel1 votesGood thing is that 
got stomped by nerfs.
Jbels1 votesI'm sorry but "walk away and don't trade" is not counterplay. It's non-interactivity. It's boring, it feels stupid to be forced to not interact with your lane partner.
That's why playing against Yorick felt so awful(still does for alot of match-ups) back in the day, you COULDN'T interact with him because all he does is poke you from safe distance with neat-o sustain. You can't interact with Darius because he will out-trade you. End of story. He will out damage you, out sustain you because of Q and innate tankiness, and if we're at level 6, chances are if he's gotten a successful pull on you, you're flashing or dying to his ult.
That's not counterplay! It's having to run like a bitch!The only champions that actually give him grief in lane are champions like Gnar, or Teemo, or Lulu, who just kite him to death before he can even get close, which is funny, because they end up doing to him what he does to others. It's a vicious cycle