Zz'Rot is not useless, it's basically just a whole new item with a different role.

ArnoldSchwarzens··4 votes·1,227 views

I feel like the reason why people think it's underpowered because they don't use it properly.

The changes made the Zz'Rot die about 4 times faster, yes, but it also makes them deal 4 times the damage they used to do to towers now. So what does this mean?

You can't use it for base defence anymore, or as something that you can plant in the sidelanes to push minions or in general just not for clearing waves. Them not gaining any HP per lvl and their health decaying double as fast just means that if they aren't able to reach the enemy tower immidiately and run into minions instead, these minions will just murder them, so you have to clear the minions for them so that they can do the super-buffed tower damage now.

What this essentially means is that it's not a passive minion pushing item anymore but instead a more active tower pushing item. It's a splitpushing item for tanks who have no tower damage but all the other tools needed to splitpush, so waveclear and getaway abilities.

Here's how you use it: You are pushing toplane as a tank with TP, clearing waves until the opportunity shows itself for you to plant it. This would be when no enemy is nearby that could stop your splitpush - similar to classic splitpushers like Tryndamere or Jax who just start autoing towers if no one is there to stop them, a tank with a Zz'Rot Portal plants it instead to deal extreme tower damage.

The important part is that you have to clear the minion waves for Zz'Rot while it stands, not the other way around, so that they can instantly go to the tower and suicide bomb it. A Zz'Rot without you nearby is pretty much useless, quite the opposite of what the old one was.

Whether or not that is a good change is debatable. But the fact of the matter is that it's just not as bad as people say it is, they just shifted its role completely away from what it used to be.

It's definitely an extremely good buy for tanks who were already good splitpushers before because it just enhances their playstyle. Singed will just proxy farm minion waves so that the Zz'Rot can go straight to the tower and suicide bomb it, Shen is able to splitpush without having to leave his team behind because of his ultimate - Sunfire gives him the waveclear and Zz'Rot Portal gives him the tower damage to do that even better.

Even other toplane tanks like Nautilus , Sion or Maokai can use it to great effect. if they just do it properly.

19 Comments

venomous frost3 votes

but does a tank really WANT to splitpush? outside of singed and shen

WoonStruck2 votes

Anyone that takes TP (almost any top laner) should want to splitpush.

Do you even play this game?

McFatal2 votes

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but does a tank really WANT to splitpush? outside of singed and shen

nasus?

Ralanr4 votes

Nasus isn't a tank.

Shuyin1781 votes

What....... Are you new to the game? He buids Trinity Force/Iceborn Gauntlet then builds full while he stacks his Q. His Q is the only real source of damage Nasus ever needs.

Ralanr2 votes
EndlessSorcerer2 votes

Nasus is a juggernaut (which is a subclass of fighter), not a tank.

Shuyin1782 votes

It's not so much a split-pushing item, it's suppose to help low damage tanks actually take towers. Have you ever seen a full-tank champion not take forever on a tower without Rot? The answer is no because tanks don't deal damage to structures even if they have an offensive item.

BIackfox3 votes

No it's garbage. Can't even build it anymore. Another shit balance by riot

Escheton2 votes

Pushgod-build Heimerdinger is gonna be scary as hell.

MorgManBasher2 votes

No, it's useless and no one will be building it in time after they realize how terrible it is now. Heavily overnerfed. I will just have to change my build a bit I guess for my Sion, but it's whatever I been playing almost all Garen now anyway, just going to miss zzrot Sion.

Ralanr1 votes

I'll admit that I really do not like rushing portal on tanks because I like getting a health item first. So I'll admit I don't like the idea of tanks relying on this item to push towers.

Makes me feel like Riot is going to gut all of their base damage.

ArnoldSchwarzens1 votes

You wouldn't rush Zz'Rot anyway imo. Not only because it gives no health but also because you won't be splitpushing in the early game.

Ralanr1 votes

Now you say that, but my concerns on gutting tank base damage is still here.

Shuyin1781 votes

I wouldn't build it early because it would ruin your minion control. Voidspawn would do nothing but auto-push the wave making you have to farm toward the enemy tower being totally susceptible to ganks at all times.

Aptest1 votes

I must say that I really enjoyed finally having the ability to depush lanes and apply lane pressure from the support position. Now that there is no longer a good buy for doing this as a support (don't say banner of command, it is not really effective for this), I wish riot will step up and upgrade BOC to where it supplies these abilities.

I understand the problem of "ZZrot behind my tower, now you struggle to push, and take free damage on your tower, and I play the game of not interacting with you".

Shuyin1781 votes

People are being retarded about the Zz'Rot changes. The item now does what it was originally created to do, help take towers WITH THE PERSON THAT PLACES IT. Old Zz'Rot you would just place it then leave forgetting about it for the next 2 1/2 minutes because it would auto-push the lane and stall out the enemy minions so your lane would always be pushed up.

Now it can't do that anymore between it having less health and having less travel distance. Now you have to actually work with it for it to be useful which I'm perfectly happy with. They upped the voidspawn's damage so you want to actually get it to the towers.

LatetotheRace1 votes

How do people think it's weak?

Mordepool1 votes

There is no need for 100% up time now as it's mostly wasted with the ability to only siege 1 tower at a time. Due to the extreme lack of travel distance Buff the other passive MS speed

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