What is the reason to make dusk blade? (real question)

Daxanater··2 votes·347 views

Just kinda curious, Assassins shouldn't be really touched, honestly. Sure they aren't powerful against tanks but do we really need that item to make squishys have a more of a harder time? So whats the big idea?

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Frigid Ice Storm2 votes

It's so assassins can kill tanks now, this item is not for killing squishies lol, you can kill them without it anyway, just makes killing tanks easier

Nahui2 votes

Here's my thoughts.

Assassins lost Last Whisper this season. All they gained was 10 flat pen on Maw which is a situationally built item. So, assassins essentially lost some damage even vs squishies this season, because 35% of base armor even against squishies was more than 10 flat pen from Maw. This is a way to bring their damage back a bit. This isn't an item to kill tanks. This doesn't mean tanks will get instakilled. It just does a good deal to them, like last whisper used to. Even though tanks are supposed to counter assassins, it's unfair that assassins have no options vs a tank really. It gives an option that has more than one use, that being killing squishies a bit as well.

However, this is a passive cooldown item. That is its balancing point. Every 2 mins, you get this proc. And it's cool if you're going all in for the kill, but anyone that says the only time they've auto attacked another champion is in an all in is lying for the sake of demonizing this item. There will be many MANY situations where this item has to be wasted and you won't have it when needed. If it was an active then it would be completely OP.

Also, I think it gives context to nerf Zed. When you look at what Zed is designed to do, where he acquires his power curve and where it ends, then take into consideration the various items and summoner spells in the game as well as popular champions played, you'll see Zed is actually in a good place. He really always has been. But, if people complain enough, they'll look into nerfing something. This item is a good way to give reason to nerf Zed in that with this item and NO balancing, he will be straight OP, since the mark synergizes with his mark both if it procs before his ult or after.

That's just me though.

Daxanater1 votes

Make sure to give some feedback too :)

DeathBurst1 votes

Go read this thread, because it was basically made to answer questions like yours...

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/pt97eEjE-duskblade-ad-assassins-and-you

Daxanater1 votes

So just read the thread and already popped some questions

It says, some aren't doing well and doing too well. Which ones? I've barely heard a complaint about a Assassin being underpowered.

I do agree the items for AD assassins aren't well supported but why this? I don't actually understand why a zed ult in a item, this just makes zed's ult not unique at all.

DeathBurst1 votes

Well, I don't know where you live, but I've heard a lot of complaints that Zed is too strong, Rengar too, and that Kha'Zix is too weak.

If you have read the thread, you should have noticed that not having decent items means they have to get over-powered kits to compensate, which is not good on the long term. So they needed a new item. Why this passive in particular? Because it does the job, and avoid a lot of potential issues (like ADC abusing the item, etc.). It could have been more unique, more original, etc. but it was a small scope project to patch the current situation, not an extensive overhaul, so Riot had not enough resources to make a much more complicated stuff.

Gunpoint1 votes

Agreed, assassins are powerful enough and this item seems so powerful it will be a must have for any assassin.

Daxanater1 votes

Now assassins will just be perma banned.

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