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All the problems with Jungle (my trash tier perspective).

Wild Geese·1/15/2020, 2:05:16 AM·4 votes·3,966 views

I've been playing jungle this year for those nice zero second queues!! Anyway here's all the problems with Jungle as I see it:

  1. Stupid Krugs take forever to clear: They will also kill you if you don't do the camp properly; but are essential to clear. Seriously sick of this Krugs mini-game, it heavily favours some Junglers over the others and has a massive burden of knowledge, sometimes I mess it up and take way too much damage.
  2. Raptors are almost as bad as Krugs; Do we need this camp with 6 monsters in it? I feel like ever since this was added the pool of junglers shrank to the amount of champions who can deal with this BS.
  3. Wolves and Gromp are next to worthless: I don't know how many times I can bother doing this camp, I'm not a good jungler. Who has time? I have both buffs and krugs and scuttler and ganks to make. The raptors and the krugs take forever but were most my xp and gold,so why even bother with these guys?
  4. Power Junglers eat everything: Honestly all together it takes way too long to do a full clear as most champions... there's just no time unless you're some Udyr with a Tiamat who can clear both jungles in the time it takes another jungler to just clear their krugs. They're so ahead of you at this point your only hope is to gank and that they're too obsessed with farming to ever show up.
  5. Blast Plants spawning at 1:15 is just mean. I can't rely on my team to ward both buffs at the very start of the game, is that even the play? Getting surprise ganked or having a buff stolen at my very first camp by this goddamned blast plant isn't cool, it's just cheesy as hell.
  6. Level 5 and 6 take forever. Seriously, Junglers reach level 4 just fine but what the hell is going on with level 5? At level 4 you need to go into a lane and soak two minion waves to even stay in the game.
  7. Dragons come in too soon!! Not every Jungler is Shyvanna and can just punch the Dragon to death at level 3 with no items, they need their team. Good luck getting a dragon as Taliyah unless you destroyed their whole bottom lane two minutes in.
  8. Buff Transfer is BS: If I get a red buff for 2 minutes, then gank top lane at 1 minute and 50 seconds and die - why does the top laner who killed me get the buff for another 2 minutes? Then if my top laner killed them, they get the buff for 2 minutes. I've seriously seen one buff last like 10 minutes, it's completely clown. Maybe there needs to be some sort of diminishing return to prevent feeding a buff from being catastrophic??
  9. Finally, Krugs suck. This stupid camp, kill it with fire. I hate it.

That's all. Yes I know I'm a trash silver. See you in the jungle!

8 Comments

F1uttershy20751/15/2020, 3:24:34 AM4 votes

Honestly there are no problems with the jungle.

The issue with the jungle is simply put , A Autofill Role.. Very few people play it as a main. And very few people know how to play wit well..

Instead most the time you're getting a auto filled jungler, who is playing a champ they watched a "ProGuides" video on and end up feeding because they don't know how to path or Gank properly .

But what makes people not want to jungle is simply 100% a thankless role that gets the Blame for EVERY THING

XJ999999999999991/15/2020, 4:06:29 AM3 votes

the key to krugs is to to always smite it. the big krug hurts.

also, unless you can AoE the small krugs, dont kill them. im talking about the itty bitty ones. junglers like Eve/olaf/jarven can kill them while walking away. but on some junglers such as Vi, if you dont have an E charge, better to just leave 2-4 small ones and go to the next camp.

also, blast cones never got cheesed level 1 like that. if its an issue, blow it up b4 u start your 1st camp.

gromp is also very high in exp now. its a good camp, so please dont avoid it.

raptors focus the small ones. if you have AoE, you can use your spells, kite them while autoing 1 at a time, and kill them again. the small ones do more damage than the big one. With Vi for example, you Q in, auto E a small raptor, auto once some other raptors, into E and they all die, leaving the big one.

Garson2111/15/2020, 10:03:52 AM2 votes

For me jungle exp can be even less but only till lvl 3 to push "gank timer" from 3 min to 4 maybe 4.30 but camps should be more tanky but in same time camps should do much much less dmg. Maybe this change will push back "power farming junglers" but im sure no matter how change it its end with bad state due to this "RIOT:ALL CHAMPS MUST ONE SHOT YOU"

xelaker1/15/2020, 4:09:52 AM2 votes

The xp would be sorta ok if objectives weren't beyond overpowered and turret plates the dumbest thing I've ever seen.

S Tier Waifu1/15/2020, 2:50:13 AM2 votes

Jungle EXP sucks, that is what is causing almost all of those problems aside from timers. but if you were an extra levelor two up you could take the dragon quicker or earlier in game time-wise

Garson2111/15/2020, 10:56:25 AM2 votes

Btw they try to repair this "spam gank" with that xp change but this is riot small indie company with no $$$ to pay testers

Thefrostyviking1/15/2020, 10:38:53 AM1 votes

Like yesterday i had two pretty good junglers in one game, one playing Sett (new at it but good at it and he knew his way around the jungle) and a volibear.

Volibear spammed ganks from level 3 on, hard carried the game by causing everyone on the team to snowball and he was ahead of everyone else in EXP except our toplane who ended going like 9.1.5-

Said toplaner basically farmed minions and his opponent the entire game, effective as it was x)

What about the enemy jungler? He counterganked Volibear and killed him but then the bear just ganked more often and made our lanes snowball too hard and had Sett´s laners be dead so sett had no real options.

Farm? Sett had like 40 CS to volibear´s 20 and Volibear was still above in levels thanks to his kills and assists.

I kinda struggle to call jungle bad after seeing that, like i did basically nothing in lane except wait around for Volibear to come in and help kill the enemy Vayne every few minutes and i even had time to read while doing it.

So yeah,....i kinda struggle to see how Jungle is bad with this kinda playstyle being possible,,,,sure farming is not great but on the other hand with ganks having such a high potential yield it´s still insanely powerful if it actually works for them.