Poor Ziggs

HP Crookshanks··5 votes·1,290 views

He is always a weak champion and never played in Summoner's Rift now there is no reason to play him in ARAM too.

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Infernape5 votes

You know he is the second strongest champ there. Whatever nerfs Riot give him for ARAM are deserved.

ZephyrDrake3 votes

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You know he is the second strongest champ there. Whatever nerfs Riot give him for ARAM are deserved.

he essentially does 30% less damage now... yeah he deserved a nerf not to become a complete joke of a champion that has no purpose whatsoever

Meredith Stout3 votes

Poke game was OP anyway in ARAM. Especially if you are playing tournaments and people have ARAM accounts getting champs like Xerath, Ziggs, Vel'Koz, etc.

So i think its good they finally gave look at ARAM!

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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Poke game was OP anyway in ARAM. Especially if you are playing tournaments and people have ARAM accounts getting champs like Xerath, Ziggs, Vel'Koz, etc.

So i think its good they finally gave look at ARAM!

so you admit you don't want balance right? It won't stop poke champions from being strong. Hell Nid got a buff of all things, Brand is completely unaffected, Jayce didn't got nerfed, Kaisa didn't got nerfed, Malz got unaffected, Xerath didn't get nerfed. But Ziggs? he takes the biggest damage nerf while having the anti poke thing being a thing. Now he deals no damage. Why would you even play as him in ARAM now? that is not balance, that is literally completely destroying a champion for no reason. The anti poke thing would have been enough but then they decided to give him a massive damage nerf for no reason. Tell me where is the balance there? balance isn't "this champion was too good so now he must be terrible"

Eedat1 votes

Because the rest of his kit is strong as fuck in ARAM on top of having strong poke. For reference, he has a 9-10% higher win rate than even Velkoz and Xerath. The closest artillery mage that comes close is Lux who has a 7% lower win rate. That's massive. He's ridiculously far ahead of even other poke mages. ***70% win rate. Seventy percent. ***

HP Crookshanks4 votes

-15% damage dealt + poke reduction is too much. Meanwhile champions like Jhin Velkoz only get -5% damage nerf and Brand Jayce Kaisa Malzahar Varus Xerath have no nerf at all.

Dynikus2 votes

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-15% damage dealt + poke reduction is too much. Meanwhile champions like Jhin Velkoz only get -5% damage nerf and Brand Jayce Kaisa Malzahar Varus Xerath have no nerf at all.

I mean they all have the -15% from poke reduction too. and none of them were as strong as ziggs.

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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I mean they all have the -15% from poke reduction too. and none of them were as strong as ziggs.

Brand isn't affected, since it doesn't apply to DoTs and he is going to be close enough that the poke reduction isn't going to affect him, same with Malz unless he lands a max range Q. Jhin also is completely unaffected since the poke reduction doesn't apply to ults which leads to his root that he doesn't care about the damage it deals anyways. So no, they all won't be affected by the damage reduction

HP Crookshanks5 votes

Ziggs is already the most affected champion by the poke reduction there is no reason for him to also get the biggest damage nerf by far.

Brambleback3 votes

No one should be nerfed on ARAM. Aram shouldn't be balanced. Balance is not fun. Balance kills 50% of all life. Balance is the cause of the war between Siths and Jedis. Please nerf balance patches. item 3137

Eedat3 votes

Ziggs has had a 70% winrate in ARAM for years now. He for sure needed it. He's the only champ that can rival Sona in levels of broken in ARAM. His entire kit is practically tailor made for it. In addition to strong poke like a lot of other mages have, his E locks down half the lane for 10 seconds at a time. His W and Passive shred towers and his ult is a huge AoE nuke.

DrippyBrownHole1 votes

Ziggs isn't great on Rift but is amazing on ARAM...

Malix Farwin1 votes

People still play Aram?

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