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Jungler: *fails a gank bot and gives enemy adc a kill*

RenownedWheat42··2 votes·593 views

"WTF THIS BOT LANE SUCKS!"

Honestly, half the time people blame bot lane for losing their games, they don't realize how they contributed to bot lane getting behind. Enemy top lane TPs, friendly top lane either doesn't match TP or doesn't keep pushing top for pressure. Enemy mid roams, friendly mid goes to base. Friendly jungler shows up and tower dives two full health opponents, enemy jungler goes in for later 2v3.

People REALLY need to consider how they play around bot lane. Ganks help, but you can't just gank at any random, bad time you feel like, the situation needs to permit it. And if your failed attempt to help the lane, warn them of incoming danger, or match the pressure applied to them elsewhere on the map only gets bot lane behind, that's YOUR fault and not bot's.

Half a rant for a game I just did, half a rant for almost every experience I have in bot lane. You can turn a winning bot lane into a losing one with a failed gank handing over a kill. That doesn't mean it's bot lane's fault you lost the game. Play around it and get them out of the rut or match the pressure elsewhere.

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Shifue Draven2 votes

Honestly i have gotten tired again of being jungle considering the population that does not play jg does not understand it. When i was in top i would see bad jungles do what you just described and i just facepalm. Then you take my last game these guys did not ward at all kept doing stupd things and on top of it they are a duo that i looked up and have more losses then wins and seem to troll every game. They wanted me to gank under tower they wanted me to drop everything to do their bidding and when i didn't and i was ganking lanes when i went back to the jg they decided to follow me take my jg camps let bot lane fall. So they put me way behind and then fed their asses off. Stuff like this is why i hate this game and i have grown to hate being a jungler cause everyone thinks jungle=babysitter and if we lose it's their fault. Not that they kept rushing the lanes without watching the map not that they kept play recklessly but but cause i did not gank lux and twitch under their own tower.

RenownedWheat422 votes

You're in a special position as jungler to give any lane an advantage in numbers. BUT, it's not your job to win the lane FOR them, unless you see they really need to get ahead to give your team the win. Ganking for the sake of ganking with no preparation or map awareness makes a bad jungler. Someone who's where they need to be, WHEN they need to be, is a good one. Huge difference.

Honestly, anyone can be the reason the game is lost. Top got ahead, took inhib tower at fifteen. Maybe mid served as a second jungler and kept top 2v1 and bot 3v2. Maybe bot cheesed top early for a 3v1 start. Etc. Could literally be anything, people just never like to blame themselves. This creates bad gameplay patterns and a lack of self-improvement.

Shifue Draven1 votes

Well the thing is i agree with you and when i mess up i mess up and i learn and move on and i accept it that is how i work. but i mean seriously they followed me took my camps then yes they cheese the top got tower then never team fought and if you look at that game and look at the profiles for those 2 they are nothing but trolls 18 games together and 11 losses with troll combos like yorick support etc and every game they have fed i know i reported them for it. But this is the reason i am hating the game this is what i get almost every other game i get 2 wins then suddenly it's a loss or three then it rights out to another win or two so i'll always be locked in this rank and i am tired of it.

ForFoxSakes2 votes

Looking at your match history it actually looks like your excessive amount of feeding in every game thats causing your team to lose, not your jungler

OP bitches about jungler but feeds his face off

"WTF THIS BOT LANE SUCKS!"

In your case this is 100% true

RenownedWheat421 votes

Had a winning bot lane early. Jungler decided to tower dive as I was coming to lane and ADC was at base, fed enemy ADC a kill. She won every trade after.

You bet your ass I kept dying as the support-budget tank whose job it was to try and get our carries to stay alive. I'd bodyslam-flash into the enemy 2v5 if it got our carry out and prevented the enemy from getting shutdown gold. At the point in the game where I'm like 0/9, I'm almost worthless in terms of kill gold anyway.

Also not saying bot lane played no part in the loss. The amount of times my ADC jumped INTO fights and stuck around to get tahm kench devoured was insane. The amount of times I got caught out warding was insane. But what I'm saying is that people let their bot lane get cucked and then bitch and moan that it's only bot lanes fault they lose.

RAT IN GAME UwU 1 votes

that's literally every game in low silver and below at about 3-5 minutes, then 7-9 minutes in they go 4 man bot and take your tower and mid and jungle don't stop them

fun elo, will probably never smurf that low again though, made me hate the game

RenownedWheat422 votes

Sad thing is it's not even such a snowball-fest JUST because the players are bad. They could be really good, but held back by their attitudes and need to "carry" or rake up that KDA.

It's a very shitty elo, since it's so large.

Shablagoo1 votes

Ppl blame bot lane because if you lose your lane you lose the game for your team, jg has alot of influence but they fall off adc dont.

RenownedWheat421 votes

Except every lane can cause the game to be lost. If one laner roams and the other doesn't match pressure, the one who roams makes the better play and gets an advantage. Doesn't matter what their role is.

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