Darius won't be worked on this year, and people of boards don't care

IsIsGankedParis·Jan 7, 2015·2 votes·368 views

Because a champ like Darius with a toxic design which Riot admits is a bad design and can go either feast like a monster or famine like the irish, destroy one matchup but get shat on in another, should continue to be ignored.

And people of boards don't care saying his kit is fine or they don't want another reincarnation of release Darius.

Try as I might to get attention for Darius, trying to start convos, I get showered with downvotes and responses that he's fine or doesn't need a rework at all, or that they won a few games with Darius so he's fine.

9 Comments

GrimspeakeJan 7, 20151 votes

Teemo reporting for duty

Drunk RummateJan 7, 20151 votes

You're correct. I don't care. He's good enough compared to many other champs we have like Yorick and Urgot and Poppy.

And once those are addressed I'd be much more inclined to talk about fixing Akali and Katarina before worrying too much about Darius.

Long Dong WukongJan 7, 20151 votes

Poppy is OP

GrimspeakeJan 7, 20151 votes

darius being strong against wukong, yasuo, irelia, riven, fiora, nasus, rengar, vi, shen, renektion, shyvana, etc isnt enough?

IsIsGankedParisJan 7, 20151 votes

Did you read what I said about his design? He's either destroying one matchup or getting completely shat on vs another.

I don't LIKE how he gives most melees no chance vs him and how he has no chance vs most ranged, I want that to be FIXED with the rework.

Drunk RummateJan 7, 20151 votes

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Did you read what I said about his design? He's either destroying one matchup or getting completely shat on vs another.

I don't LIKE how he gives most melees no chance vs him and how he has no chance vs most ranged, I want that to be FIXED with the rework.

That's his niche. Every champion has one.

Pantheon shits on everybody until around level 11 at which point he's suddenly the weakest champion in the game unless he has a full item advantage. That's his niche.

Orianna hits like a pillow until she has 3 items at which point her QW will do 40% of your ADCs health and her ultimate will destroy your entire team. That's her niche.

Darius will get kited to hell by any champion with reasonable mobility and range but he'll curbstomp anyone who gets inside of his E-Q range. That's his niche.

Also, these niches can be overcome with strategy. It's not like Darius can't take flash to get in range. Or even flash + ghost if he wants. Good positioning in fights with flanks can force people to walk through him or run into the meat grinder that is the rest of his team. Smart use of vision control can bait people into his range. Long ranged CC from teammates can allow him to walk up on champions he would otherwise be unable to catch.

Long Dong WukongJan 7, 20151 votes

What's wrong with a character destroying like 10 matchups and losing the other 10?

I know Riot has Ghostcrawler now but we don't have to homogenize the fuck out of everything even more.

If you want to bitch about something go bitch about how he's useless outside of lane because he can't catch people or start fights unless they fuck up like low elo.

Lord DusteonJan 7, 20151 votes

The problem I see (not being a real Darius player) is that Darius is supposed to be "weak to kiting". That's fine, but what that ends up meaning is he's bad vs ranged. To make up for that, he's really strong when he IS in range, which leads to him being utterly shit against anyone he can't pull (or get in range to pull) and stomp on everyone he can. Unless they soften his weakness + strengths, I can't see him changing (since only softening one leads to him being either shit vs everything or strong vs everything).

It just seems like his entire design is skewed entirely into being a counterpick that absolutely wins lane and then falls off, or does nothing the entire game.

Dingding123Jan 7, 20151 votes

+1 because boards don't care

Darius is another naturally tanky melee that is mechanically broken now, alongside the likes of Volibear and Renekton. There is no reason to have high health or HP items if you aren't either ahead of the other team or a potato, and you can get that health through leveling up already...which implies that you are ahead anyway. It isn't counterplay or good build synergy - it's oppression. HP needs to be reworked for the sake of anyone who actually has any in their kit.