A tiny Orianna buff.

koshkyra·Mar 19, 2017·1 votes·1,034 views

Orianna is just a bit behind other utility mages right now so I wanna propose a very small buff.

I will quote the last half of her W,

"The pulse leaves behind an energy field for 3 seconds, lowering enemy movement speed by 20/25/30/35/40% and increasing ally movement speed by 20/25/30/35/40% for 2 seconds. This effect diminishes over time.

Get rid of the last sentence. The effect does not have to diminish over time, I really don't know why it does. I think this will make Orianna completely fine.

15 Comments

CalabokMar 19, 20175 votes

LOL no she deserves a nerf instead

Handy Sandy Mar 19, 20174 votes

Orianna is just a bit behind other utility mages right now

She's pretty much the best one right now since she's so safe.

koshkyraMar 19, 20171 votes

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She's pretty much the best one right now since she's so safe.

She has a knockup and a slow.

Compare it to other utility mages:

Lissandra has a slow, a root, a stun, and another slow Zyra a root, a multi-hit slow, a knockup Syndra she's not even a utility mage and she still has more - knockback, stun, slow Velkoz slow, knockup/knockback, another slow

Something about being the best utility mage and then downvoting me?

Handy Sandy Mar 19, 20171 votes

Lissandra has to get close to do her damage and has high mana costs

Zyra is highly gankable in a solo lane, and she can't really do damage as a support anymore

Syndra is Syndra. Except that her stun/knockback remains at a high cooldown throughout the whole game.

Vel'koz is another highly gankable target that isn't as good at teamfighting due to his ultimate being interuptable.

Orianna has most of these things on a low cooldown, bursting down targets and then having autoattacks for consistent damage, while being one of the best peelers in the game because of her slow+shielding carries who need it.

TormentulaMar 19, 20171 votes

Lissandra is mostly single target and has the opportunity cost of diving 1v5 and potentially dying. Zyra isn't a mid laner so her only presence is in the bot lane with welfare income. Syndra has to aim, have spheres ready, easy to see what direction the spheres will go. Velkoz Low radius knock up, has a channel to easily avoid by walking, slow is a skill shot. Immobile during ult.

Orianna an ability that travels any direction it wants hitting multiple targets in edition to slowing anything she so pleases with W, followed by a shield which gives her and allies survivability as well as an ultimate which can knockup pull people into a target location and has a large enough radius to only be dodgable by flashing.

She's the best utility mage because she's the safest and most useful throughout any phase of the game, where as the others suck at grouping (liss) suck at multi target damage or have telegraphed CC (syndra), easy to avoid and smallish skillshots (vel, in comparison to ori), or have no belonging in this comparison cause they're not a mid laner which can provide roam pressure or give their team shields outside of items which they can't buy with support income. (zyra)

koshkyraMar 19, 20171 votes

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is mostly single target and has the opportunity cost of diving 1v5 and potentially dying. isn't a mid laner so her only presence is in the bot lane with welfare income. has to aim, have spheres ready, easy to see what direction the spheres will go. Low radius knock up, has a channel to easily avoid by walking, slow is a skill shot. Immobile during ult.

an ability that travels any direction it wants hitting multiple targets in edition to slowing anything she so pleases with W, followed by a shield which gives her and allies survivability as well as an ultimate which can knockup pull people into a target location and has a large enough radius to only be dodgable by flashing.

She's the best utility mage because she's the safest and most useful throughout any phase of the game, where as the others suck at grouping (liss) suck at multi target damage or have telegraphed CC (syndra), easy to avoid and smallish skillshots (vel, in comparison to ori), or have no belonging in this comparison cause they're not a mid laner which can provide roam pressure or give their team shields outside of items which they can't buy with support income. (zyra)

Not even reading the rest of this shit.

LISSANDRA IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO ALL SINGLE TARGET, EVERYTHING IN HER KIT IS MULTITARGET. Zyra is a midlaner. People play her support because they're too lazy to 1v1. "Has to aim, have spheres ready, easy to see which direction spheres will go." Are you stupid? Ori has to aim and needs her ball ready. I'm not seeing how that last sentence is trashing Syndra. Everything you said for velkoz is as well true for Orianna. Her slow is a skillshot, she's immobile during ult, small knockup radius, and velkoz' channel is not "easily" avoidable by walking so I don't know where you're getting that from.

Not reading or responding to your next post cause I'm done hearing peoples shit for the day.

BeatzBoyFTWMar 19, 20172 votes

Not reading or responding to your next post cause I'm done hearing peoples shit for the day.

It's more like everytime someone says something which you don't agree with, you're like this:

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Maddened King Mar 19, 20171 votes

Lissandra Doesn't have a Shield. Auto attacks do not scale with AP. Zyra Doesn't have a Shield. Auto attacks do not scale with AP. Syndra Doesn't have a Shield. Auto attacks do not scale with AP. Velkoz Doesn't have a Shield. Auto attacks do not scale with AP.

koshkyraMar 19, 20171 votes

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Doesn't have a Shield. Auto attacks do not scale with AP. Doesn't have a Shield. Auto attacks do not scale with AP. Doesn't have a Shield. Auto attacks do not scale with AP. Doesn't have a Shield. Auto attacks do not scale with AP.

Please tell me how having a shield and auto attacks that scale with AP make you a utility mage. A utility mage is a mage with crowd control. I wanna know how those two things make one a utility mage cause frankly I don't know.

You can respond back, I don't care. I'm not reading it or responding.

Maddened King Mar 20, 20171 votes

I mean you don't have to respond to it. Oriana has an AOE slow/Speed boost, AOE stun, Shield that not only provides effective health but also provides MR and Armor, and she deals "A ton of damage", OH! And her auto attacks scale with AP.

Viktor Von LazerMar 23, 20171 votes

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She has a knockup and a slow.

Compare it to other utility mages:

has a slow, a root, a stun, and another slow a root, a multi-hit slow, a knockup she's not even a utility mage and she still has more - knockback, stun, slow slow, knockup/knockback, another slow

Something about being the best utility mage and then downvoting me?

Orianna's just a better option compared to these champions. Lissandra has to get closer to deal most of her damage and her overall damage isn't that high (or her winrate)

Syndra is strong in lane then falls off late game. landing a team stun and having your team follow up on it isn't remotely as easy landing an orianna ult.

Velkoz is actually pretty decent, ultility, true damage, but I wouldn't say he's as safe as Orianna.

Orianna only feels weak cause there's currently stronger options. Buff her and she becomes one of the only options.