melee champions should start with 40% tenacity in doom bots

Critmaster Garen··63 votes·3,834 views

as expected, the mode is entirely biased towards ranged champions with wave clear.

even getting 20% damage reduction instead of 10% isnt enough. you just get locked down and blown up throughout the entire game when you just walk slightly too close towards the bots.

the most powerful champions in that mode are Lux Ziggs and similar long ranged poke mages who can stay away from the area effects and the bots while pushing back waves.

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Marshbouy25 votes

downvotes reads "doom bots" upvotes

Mira Arya Enthe10 votes

Won as Shyvana :3

TyrekGoldenspear7 votes

^^^ Totally impressed by this btw.

GULAG 4 U2 votes

I mean an actually challenge is to win doombots with something like kha'zix or yi, winning it with brand, jinx, xerath, ziggs and lux on your team is a piece of cake.

TyrekGoldenspear2 votes

Thing is Brand is disabled in doom bots.

Velzard of Koz2 votes

Why everbody forgets our lord and savior Vel'Koz, the Tentacle Inquisitor

Velzard of Koz1 votes

Wait did u win doom bots as Shyvana or normal game? Oh wait, it doesn't matter anyway, still impressive.

Mimy7 votes

For some reason it brings me great joy to finally see your jimmies rustled. xD

I always see you posting on everything that isn't "Melee favorable"

Cough Kalista Buff Threads. Cough


But I will agree with you on this one. I'm tired of people choosing melee champions and FEEDING

IceKingChernobog6 votes

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For some reason it brings me great joy to finally see your jimmies rustled. xD

I always see you posting on everything that isn't "Melee favorable"

Cough Kalista Buff Threads. Cough


But I will agree with you on this one. I'm tired of people choosing melee champions and FEEDING

Kalista is not getting a buff until her nasty kit is sorted out first.

Supreme Senpai693 votes

I'm tired of people choosing assassins with no wave clear. Had a zed die 23 times in that 15 minute game mode that obviously lasted much less than that because we lost through mid.

Only Play Darius1 votes

I'm tired of people who complain that someone wants to play a champ they like in a limited time game mode against bot opponents. Worse than complaining about what someone picked in URF

Critmaster Garen2 votes

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I'm tired of people who complain that someone wants to play a champ they like in a limited time game mode against bot opponents. Worse than complaining about what someone picked in URF

so basically im not allowed to have fun, because the champions i enjoy playing are supposed to be trash in that mode?

Supreme Senpai691 votes

The point of the limited time game mode is to have fun. For example in URF the fun picks are things that rely on CDs or mana; otherwise there's no point and you might as well play normals. In this mode the point is to win and get your icon and see how long you can survive. Can't do that when our mid laner can't clear waves and can't do anything. But you can't abandon a game or no icon, which is whatever.. but I've had an assassin every time I try to play and they always do bad.

Which I can't even blame them for. This game mode wasn't meant to support assassins.

Earl Eulrich5 votes

yupp, there are just so few bots you can actually fight as a melee, and as soon as they start grouping it´s just like any other lategame ->jump in with 5k hp and 300 of each deefstat, absorb the cc and die in 1-3sec from full health.

so well...melees across the board could use those buffs in every damn gamemode unfortunatly.

Ariel the Cruel4 votes

so well...melees across the board could use those buffs in every damn gamemode unfortunatly.

I miss Dominion.

Ruin Lance4 votes

"it's possible to win as a melee champion" it's possible but MUCH harder so that's a really dumb argument

Sire Hippington3 votes

i'd prefer 20% damage reduction right from start which then gets further increased. My issue with melees rarely was beeing cced to much, but rather dying within a sec as soon as i got close to more than 1 bot.

Teridax683 votes

I agree, melee champions should have increased Tenacity and damage reduction, perhaps even a reduced respawn timer. The issue with Doom Bots is that a ton of their empowered abilities turn into massive combo point-blank AoEs: for ranged champion, there's a chance for them to dodge those abilities, but for melee champions, there's no chance at all, and at higher levels getting caught by a single CC ability can mean death. Doom Bots are amazing, but still heavily skewed towards poke and artillery, and hopefully that'll change in the future.

Shadow Hazard2 votes

it is possible to play melee champs, don't play doombots for an easy time

Critmaster Garen7 votes

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it is possible to play melee champs, don't play doombots for an easy time

you gonna end up feeding your ass off though.

it doesnt feel fun, and the power gap between melee and long ranged poke champs is pretty large. the only one ive been successful on is ekko, and only because except for his auto attack range he almost plays like a ranged poke/waveclear champ with his q, and bots are too dumb to move out of the way when he throws his w down.

hhaavviikk1 votes

hey that's not true, I've had great succes with sion, though that's mostly because they ignore me when I die and my passive is active

rtbf761092712 votes

Also the bots perfectly side step some abilities but refuse to dodge others. It's very strange. They dodge the jinx line shot EVERY time but literally ignore Ahri charm q and Lux root

Wimbledofy2 votes

anyone know how to beat doombots lvl 100?

elon wątroba2 votes

Miss fortune's r is nuts in doom. Bots don't even try to walk from it.

ZT Xperimentor2 votes

The stilted gameplay against melee champions was pointed out in the beta as well, and went ignored, glad to see riot pays attention.

Saianna2 votes

Could someone tell me what Featured Game Mode we have this weekend?

I'm wondering if it's worth to re-install LoL :D

ManiacalCoyote3 votes

Doom Bots of Doom, featuring a gigantic, satanic Teemo.

Saianna1 votes

thanks ;)

Bouncemaster Zac2 votes

The whole "ranged mages with waveclear are your best option" is why they disabled Brand . His kit is so ridiculous that he makes Doom Bots easy.

(p.s. nerf Brand )

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Critmaster, I have a really serious question...

Can Garen use his ult on Teemo in doom bots?

I must know.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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Critmaster, I have a really serious question...

Can Garen use his ult on Teemo in doom bots?

I must know.

didnt get this far with him. probably would have to try on a super low setting. but since you can smite him, probably not.

TyrekGoldenspear2 votes

Curses. Teemo escapes Justice.

Owyn1 votes

you can't ult teemo T_T Tried it as Syndra

rtbf761092712 votes

I also tried that. Cant pick him up and throw him either

notice me Sin pi1 votes

u cant use champion-only abilties on Teemo but u can use things like summoner 11 for 800+ dmg nuke on Teemo

Only Play Darius1 votes

First game of Doombots: I play Darius and Jhin tells me i'm a liability and nearly cost us the game. I also learned a little too late that Teemo isn't technically a champion so I couldn't apprehend him, heal off him, or even dunk him.

[zombie-nunu-bummed]

Champion Skin2 votes

Wait... does that mean that summoner 11 and Nunu consume works? (and Chogath R dealing 1000 damage)

Requiemsfire3 votes

Yep not that I would recommend either Cho or Nunu because they simply wouldn't survive long against doombots.

Odinakos1 votes

Could see Nunu going ap at start with max Q for sustain but only if you have Kog/jinx to W them. His Q is just a plus.

Galihan1 votes

Cho can be useful for silence and knockup to go as a support tank that can set up kills for his team.

notice me Sin pi1 votes

i had a game in doombots where someone picked Darius and carried the game

Catastrop1 votes

Lmao, a Jihn calling liability, at least you can heal, he just dies in a fire if he does anything other than W and ult.

No flash no life1 votes

There is one melee champion that is exceptionally useful against doom bots. He goes by the name Singed.

All you do is proxy farm your lane, and even if 5 doom bots group up @ your lane they won't scratch your turret. Once teemo is summoned, you proxy farm at enemy base, completely thwarting all push attempts while the rest of your team deal with teemo.

(Of course, jungle creeps might come out and shove the lane, but it's your team's responsibility to clear those camps when the warning icon shows up on the mini map)

Edit: I stand corrected. Red side of the map isn't accessible so proxy farming isn't an option.

Vscara3 votes

you, cant proxy, going anywhere on the red side of the map will kill you and enemy turrets are indestructible.

Epcoatl1 votes

You probably weren't talking about these kind of melee's, but GP Gangplank is pretty good. Got a quadra on lvl 77(?) bots with him

DorkunedAuras5 votes

He's not melee. He's a ranged champion who happens to have melee auto attacks.

TequilaZombie2 votes

He's a melee AD Battle Mage. Not a traditional melee by any sorts.

GigaPube1 votes

lux and ziggs, yeah thats why they disabled them over brand, cos they're obviously stronger derp lmao

Critmaster Garen5 votes

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lux and ziggs, yeah thats why they disabled them over brand, cos they're obviously stronger derp lmao

oh, my fucking god. first of all, when brand is disabled, then yes those two are among the next strongest. so what are you even trying to say?

second, theyre the same type of champion as brand. did you even read the op?

ranged champions with poke and waveclear, with lux and ziggs as examples have a massive advantage in this mode. obviously brand was so ridiculous that they had to disable him, but he falls into the same category.

im not even mad that these champions are strong in that mode, just disappointed, that a lot of melee champions feel entirely useless.

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