Shaco boxes do a lot of damage when stacked

Duke Anax··1 votes·1,709 views

I just had a game with a Shaco support. What he would do is put all of his boxes into one spot and when someone accidentally ran into that area he would get a kill, mostly from the boxes alone.

Ganking became a lottery (mind you there were other things wrong with that game, doesn't change this one fact though)

We thought at first it was a bug, or cheat, it felt that ridiculous. but I checked it, did the math and they actually do that much damage.

At level 7 a level 4 box does 80+20%AP * 1,6 AS damage, Thats 128+32% AP dps. If there are three or four in one place that HURTS.

Lets say 400 dps and more, at level 7. If they don't buy Health or MR, squishies can take less than 1300 at level 7. So a Box stack can kill them 100-0 in 2-3 seconds.

A simngle box on it's own seems fine, but what do you think should they do something agaisnt stacking boxes? at least agaionst champions, he kinda needs to stack boxes in the jungle.

9 Comments

CLG Coffee1 votes

Keep in mind its 16 seconds per box. At max CDR its 10 seconds. And they only last 1 min.

So at max, there can only be 6 stacked boxes. And if he were to put 3-4 boxes down, the fastest he could do it would be 30-40 seconds ahead of time.

And he leaves a red smoke (even in fog of war) so you know where the boxes are.

So yes, if Shaco manages to plant that many boxes without the other team knowing, and the enemy team also FACE checks the brush, I think its pretty fair.

Duke Anax1 votes

Thing is boxes don't respond to sweeper or pink, so there is no option not to facecheck. Also they weren't even in bush.

One time he placed it in river on the gank path while they were pushing, bot couldn't watch the fow, because they had to watch the wave.

TheDogIsOut1 votes
Koldheartedjsp1 votes

shaco qq...

my god what's going on

Duke Anax1 votes

no qq, just a wtf.

Koldheartedjsp1 votes

it's always been like this though

Duke Anax1 votes

Never noticed though, most Shacos use their boxes as wards and spread them out.

But if you know, it's actually better to use them like Heimer turrets and create a deathzone.

Koldheartedjsp1 votes

shaco just isn't popular is why you've probably never seen it.

They've actually nerfed this style of play many times over the years. The boxes used to be on a 1.5minute timer rather than 1 minute like they are now

Pacbro1 votes

I main ap shaco jungle. after building a couple items (i do max cdr) and getting a little bit of ap, usually one or two boxes can get me a kill on a squishy. moreso if i get an e off as well. Its great when you're counterjungling as well, stack boxes and then kill a buff when you know enemy jungler is coming (especially red buff after smiting it) and its almost a guaranteed kill. oh and to help with the slow jungling of ap shaco early, i use trailblazer to keep myself alive.

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