"lol I did most damage as support"

PhDs Nuts·Mar 5, 2017·81 votes·6,843 views

No you didn't you troll that's damage

62 Comments

LauchmelderMar 5, 201725 votes

Similar but reversed case:

Had a Trundle report me because I did less damage than him (I was Kalista) in ARAM.

I used the game as dodge practice for Malphite ults, because he (Full AP malphite) made it his mission to assassinate me every teamfight.

The DeckownerMar 5, 201714 votes

people seriously play ARAM with comoetetive and toxic mindset?

ChaoticPineconeMar 5, 201722 votes

Competitive? Yes. I want to win.

Do I care if you want to go AP Alistar, AP Sejuani, or AD Janna? Not really. But if you have 3k damage when everyone else is doing 30k because you went AP Garen, yeah - you deserve some hate.

vOmvbrawfUMar 5, 20179 votes

Why is it suddenly frowned upon to play with a competitive mindset? Seriously, when did wanting to win become a bad thing? This community man.

MorticianjohnMar 5, 20175 votes

You're still trying to win in ARAM and be "competitive" but when you report someone for their lack of damage in ARAM then you are taking it overboard.

HellioningMar 5, 20175 votes

When you're doing it in an ARAM, the definition of a fun mode. There's no rewards or LP to deal with.

vOmvbrawfUMar 5, 20174 votes

So wanting to win in ARAM is a bad thing because it's supposed to be fun?

wut

Spice POWAHMar 5, 20175 votes

No, it's just a bad thing when people are willing to report someone because one person on the team isn't going the most OP build on a "meta" ARAM champ-only account.

Wanting to win is fine, but remember to pretty much assume everyone is just trying to have fun too.

vOmvbrawfUMar 5, 20172 votes

Ok? Not sure what that has to do with my comment lol.

Silver SingedMar 5, 20171 votes

ARAM actually has it's own set of elites that play in high level MMR.

It really develops it's own meta for best item builds and strategies that don't apply to the normal game and it's really cool to see a group like All Mid All Modes go in and wreck face even when they have a shitty team comp just because they know the mode so damned well.

LordGeovanniMar 5, 20171 votes

the entire game is supposed to be a fun mode and the fun is in the fight and struggle of playing the game to win. thats what moba games are.

ForeverLaxxMar 6, 20173 votes

Because people, for some reason, associate "wanting to win" with "doesn't want to have fun."

I find winning fun.

vOmvbrawfUMar 6, 20171 votes

Yeah, I don't find fun in not being able to leave your base because the entire enemy team is fed and 1 shots you lol. I find it a waste of 35 mins.

It Hertz When IPMar 5, 20172 votes

Yeah, I think most of them forget it's a fun n relax game mode. Personally I use it more for practicing with champions I don't often play otherwise.

PlanetWarwickMar 5, 20171 votes

Getting naut is relatable

JoxcabMar 5, 201721 votes

death is best cc

TiltoverEnforcerMar 5, 20173 votes

Is it though? KogMaw Karthus Sion

KnalxzMar 5, 201717 votes

If Janna every does more damage then a Yasuo that Yasuo should be reported, regardless of their team.

Sraeg2013Mar 5, 20172 votes

Or their build.

Greek is fatMar 5, 20176 votes

Thank you, someone fucking understands.

llIllIllIllIllMar 5, 20175 votes

I know you guys hate mage supports but when they do decent in lane they turn into a second midlaner which has extreme presence in teamfights compared to traditional supports. Especially if they get to the point where they can just gib a carry, then they can just trade themselves for you every teamfight which puts your team massively ahead

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hhaavviikkMar 5, 20173 votes

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I know you guys hate mage supports but when they do decent in lane they turn into a second midlaner which has extreme presence in teamfights compared to traditional supports. Especially if they get to the point where they can just gib a carry, then they can just trade themselves for you every teamfight which puts your team massively ahead

Poll: What was the best season in League of Legends?

isn't that the problem though? mages being so much better that support are left to rot

ChaoticPineconeMar 5, 20173 votes

Funnily enough, mages arent "so much better" than traditional supports for the most part. In fact, I'd say that most of the time they are worse. The thing is, mage-supports have potential to carry, even though its difficult to snowball hard enough to do so. For that fact alone, people are willing to take the high-risk, high-reward option because it puts the win condition in their hands instead of relying too hard on your team.

But actually look at the winrates. The Sion support is an anomoly, but after that the current list goes: Sona, Janna, Blitz, Soraka, Taric, Lulu, Leona. In fact, Janna is probably the most consistent - always at around a 52-53% winrate, almost always within the top-4 supports you can pick. People just dont like playing her since youre basically an add-on champion - you dont really do anything for yourself, but you make your ADC twice as strong. With a good ADC, it works, but making a bad ADC twice as strong doesnt give you much influence in the game.

DepressedAhriMar 5, 20173 votes

I've 100-0'ed, solo killed, an enemy ADC before, as support Nami. This is something mage supports do, and I did it on a traditional support. While still being effective in healing my allies, having Sightstone and Redemption, and pursuing objectives, and gaining little CS. So, just because mage supports do more damage, it does not mean they are better.

Succubús GFMar 6, 20171 votes

It is always so frightening to see a death recap to see a bubble do like 300 or so damage without ap, (talking early anyway)

Chibi BronzlifeMar 5, 20172 votes

well there is no sight stone so that support should have likely been reported. Cut out deathcap and voidstaff and it's a perfectly acceptable support itemization (assuming they had SS) adding in like a morelos or redemption based on how the game is going and it's fine.

RevaliMar 5, 20177 votes

item 2301

Chibi BronzlifeMar 5, 20172 votes

he didn't list eye of the watchers in the post. plus on the big bursty ranged mages you want the frost queen claim over eye, slow them down hit them with cc dump your damage, maybe give over the kill, maybe take it yourself.

RevaliMar 5, 20172 votes

Why would you not want something that still gives cdr ap and the sightstone parts as a mage and a free inventory slot if a game manages to go one for something selfish like item 3135 they're still not a normal support, they're another carry and should be grabbing items like that, if you really want items like Redemption play someone more flexible like karma.

Most of the ap mages get rylais in the first place, why double down on slows when they don't stack, your AD should have blue ward for deep vision to know if its dangerous. Why would you want the ghosts when in my opinion its a double edged sword since if they have their own vision they can figure out what side of the map will you be on, thus know its warded

the ghost slow isn't instant either, most cc is skillshot based. and the slow id dependant on how far the ghost travelled giving you ample time to back off if you ward yourself.

ErockandrollMar 5, 20171 votes

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he didn't list eye of the watchers in the post. plus on the big bursty ranged mages you want the frost queen claim over eye, slow them down hit them with cc dump your damage, maybe give over the kill, maybe take it yourself.

Maybe, however if you were going to do that, why bother with Crystal Scepter? FQC Only has a 90 sec Cooldown, and if you swapped that out with the Ruby Sight stone, it would have reduced the CD down to 72 seconds.

morris1Mar 5, 20171 votes

I'd much rather swap out the FQC for the Eye though. FQC active is used for picking people off, Rylai's however is a combat slow that can affect all 5 people over the entire course of the teamfight (+ it increases Liandry damage).

General Esdeath Mar 5, 20172 votes

No Zyra your item 3020 base item 3151 damage item 3116 and item 3135 items item 3089 are item 2301 DAMAGE

FilDaFunkMar 5, 20172 votes

Did u only do most dmg because ur adc got killed due to the lack of peel?

gottrjrMar 5, 20172 votes

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No you didn't you troll that's damage

It depends on the definition of support. Is support a certain type of build or is it a play style? I can support and peel building damage. I don't feel it is the items that makes a support but the play style.

BlåbæretMar 5, 20172 votes

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No you didn't you troll that's damage

So your supp is a better player than you, why exactly are you complaining about getting carried?

PhDs NutsMar 5, 20175 votes

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So your supp is a better player than you, why exactly are you complaining about getting carried?

lol? I main top lane and typically play tanks, and the people that I see saying this are usually on the enemy team. It's just stupid when someone who builds exclusively damage tries to act like they shouldn't have dealt any.

They didn't deal the most damage "as support". They dealt the most damage as a full AP AoE mage with %hp damage that played bot lane with the adc. It's expected.

Papa AndreiMar 5, 20171 votes

Well tbh, its really damn funny when you play like Raka, Braum or Thresh and get most damage on the winning team.

TurquoiseYoshiMar 5, 20173 votes

That's definitely funny.

However, it's not really funny when a support's entire build is damage and they have no requirements to CS properly so they get free harass (damage) time, so they do the most damage. That's at least within reason, like any other role having the most damage.

MorgManBasherMar 5, 20171 votes

On a support budget and doing the most damage over your mid is pretty depressing tbh.

VerdadeMar 5, 20172 votes

Mage supps spend close to 100% of their income on damage. Zyra can't afford to buy Zhonyas as first item and expect to be relevant. She can't even buy it as third item...

Mid has much more options, can afford defensive/utility items etc.

TotalJerkMar 5, 20171 votes

ADC can't do damage when they're dead.

VerdadeMar 5, 20171 votes

This is very bad reasoning.

If Brand poses more threat than his ADC, he's much more likely to be focused first. This makes him act as "body shield" for ADC, as enemies are much more likely to ignore ADC and kill Brand first. So if ADC dies before Brand, enemy team AND your ADC misplayed.

PhDs NutsMar 5, 20172 votes

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This is very bad reasoning.

If Brand poses more threat than his ADC, he's much more likely to be focused first. This makes him act as "body shield" for ADC, as enemies are much more likely to ignore ADC and kill Brand first. So if ADC dies before Brand, enemy team AND your ADC misplayed.

There is typically very little the ADC can do if their team lets the enemy get to them, especially in the current meta where they get deleted by any lethality champion with 2+ items.

VerdadeMar 6, 20171 votes

On the contrary. People, especially low-elo players always forget how important positioning is. ADCs are used to play balls-out when they have whole team peeling for them, which is nice, but they can't do that when there are more important champions on their team. They refuse to adapt to changing enviroment, and they feel entitled to get protected. When top laner picks Quinn or Vayne, they never ask for peel or protection, they are used to playing safely and peeling for themselves. But bot lane ADC always rages and flames if he doesn't get peel he's used to. It's more of a psychological issue than anything else.