Give intermediate bots a keystone

Why give just one?

#BotsArePeopleToo

I would love for a more difficult bot experience. I used to think testing new champs/builds out on bots was good, but they just get face rolled before the build kicks in. Bots are what they are though at this point.

they honestly don't need them. the only players who SHOULD be playing vs bots are the newest of players getting used to the game before they dive into PVP. those players are usually sub level 18 (keystone levels) so giving bots a keystone would actually put truly new players at a disadvantage.

players who are experienced enough to be level 18 probably aren't playing vs bots anymore. and those that are will stomp them keystone or not.

They should just add a new level of bot difficulty.

Easy bots are for new players lvl 1-5. Then they get pvp and go there.

Intermediate bots would be for the lvl 5 players who got their asses kicked by smurfs and had to find out the hard way that they need lvl 18 (Keystones)

Difficult bots could be for lvl 20+. Basically grinding for XP or IP or if you are looking for an assured win of the day (But you still have to work for it unlike in Intermediate bots)

Please, no. Zyra bot is too strong and should be playing in the NA LCS.

While we're on the subject of buffing bots can we please have a bot jungle instead of 2 Top laners? Also if you can increase the difficulty a bit that would be great as well.

Also give them like 50gp10 and a random bonus stat boost (+50% armor/MR bonus from items on tanks, +50% damage bonus for ADs, +50% Ap bonus for APs)

You can't make bots play very well, but you can make them harder to just run over.

I totally agree with this, but rather than that, I'd prefer if you could choose their summoner levels and masteries under a settings command or something. It'd also be neat if we could select bot behaviors for them, for example, Garen, even though he has a passive that regens HP, instead of sitting under tower regening HP after you take his health down enough, he just runs off and backs, leaving you there to farm until he gets back to lane. It'd be nice if we could define what they do under certain situations to create some nice mock battles, like with my Garen example, you could define what he does when he gets low HP, to something where he goes to a location where there are no enemies around and regens his HP while hiding.This thought is custom mode obviously.

Though for masteries for the normal bots you could make their summoner levels the average of the player's summoner levels, giving them whatever masteries would benefit them most in the given situation and possibly runes(if they're level 30+, cuz no one uses runes below that, then again I forgot those tier 2 runes are on sale for 1 IP per rune, so I guess you could give them tier 2 runes if they're in that range of levels).

So much this. Should have been done at the start of the season, Intermediate bots feel really lackluster. They should also get full tier 3 runes while Riot's at it.

Why? Usually people playing bots have no keystones since they are not high enough levels.

I disagree with the keystone thing since I play intermediate quite a bit just to get my daily and I normally end up being the only one with a keystone on my team in about every 1 in 3 games. Also Riot would need to actually fix other issues with the bots first such as them not being updated until sometime later, such as two weeks ago GP was still able to put out 4 barrels. Also they would need to fix the bots having eternal vision of players constantly, try playing against GP bot and he will ult you no matter how deep in the jungle you go. It also can be annoying to play any characters with stealth since certain bots will autolock onto you and hit you before even you know where you are going. If they did add another bot difficulty level I would say lock it until at least level 20 or so to keep the people who currently love to play intermediate without keystones or decide to play their first match ever in intermediate out.

personally id never like to lose to a bot game in my life, and any decent player who does, should have riot scrambling and panicking to fix the real shit that goes on, not this pitiful bs like adding keystones to them so they have a better chance of beating a player with 4 bot teammates....riot adding keystones to bots is like senators planting trees. its useless but they get the braindead masses to like them. they can do less work but get on the publics good side. dont show riot we're easily persuaded with this meaningless pith. show them we want to play their game in a way that both parties can be happy. this is with the assumption that this would take about 20+ hours of work, so if it really only took like 2-3 hours by a single rioter and it didnt have any bugs, fine whatever, let the baby have his bottle, but theres just so much more stuff riot can be working on over pitiful junk like keystones on bots

I have an idea: Why don't we bring back doom bots and put keystones on them instead? It kills two birds with one stone.

I think they should just make a Hard mode,then they could add that stuff.

Why incorporate this into intermediate bots, instead of having advanced bots? - It doesn't account for the low level players (10 and below) that try intermediate and feed. - Specifically for Twisted Treeline, since SR isn't anywhere near as bad. Alternatively, set a minimum account level for intermediate bots, and it'd be fine.

I'd prefer Advanced bots if anything, but honestly, I'm not sure if it matters. The skill level at which abusing a bot's AI becomes easy is fairly low. Giving them keystone masteries won't change that too much, unless they're also programmed to jungle, roam, ward, gank, contest dragon, etc.

4 words

Garen in the bush...

Seriously though I have some requests for bots. As other have pointed out, if they could somehow program one of the bots to Jungle that would be awesome. I like to practice jungling builds but having that basically unopposed makes it hard to get ready for real games. And second, they need to fix how the bots build. I notice many of them buy early green wards which is pretty nice, but they usually hold on to them until they are level 18. So they end up with an incomplete build and are not as powerful as yourself with a max build. Have the bots just sell their ward late game and fill that last item slot with something meaningful so they end up in a better place stats wise.

I don't see the point. its mostly new players that fight bots, and you don't need them to have keystones to test a new champ

Or make a hard difficulty to bots

I second this, even though I stopped playing bots long ago. They're OK practice, and can be fun. Theres really no loss without the keystones, though. Either way the bots will be weak.