Tell us when our hextech keys reset.

PhDs Nuts·Jun 5, 2016·305 votes·13,974 views

Title. Either a notification or just put the date of reset somewhere in the client.

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102 Comments

jr deputy meowJun 5, 201644 votes

for real i haven't gotten so much as a single key in almost a month now and you just leave me to wonder why? i know my hextech loot isn't disabled because i've gotten a chest in that time but no keys. not even one

PhDs NutsJun 5, 201633 votes

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for real i haven't gotten so much as a single key in almost a month now and you just leave me to wonder why? i know my hextech loot isn't disabled because i've gotten a chest in that time but no keys. not even one

Lack of clarity is a problem. Even a notification of when you hit the cap would be good.

the Anarchit3chtJun 6, 201610 votes

There isn't a cap, that's the thing. Every key just diminishes your chances of you getting a key. So you could, in theory, end up with .0000000000001% chance to get a key, but you can still get one.

PhDs NutsJun 6, 20168 votes

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There isn't a cap, that's the thing. Every key just diminishes your chances of you getting a key. So you could, in theory, end up with .0000000000001% chance to get a key, but you can still get one.

But then it resets. Apparently the reset happens around the same time each month, but it's supposedly based off of when you got your first key. None of that information is available.

DeathBurstJun 6, 20163 votes

More precisely, I think it resets 30 days after you get your first key.

So let's say you get your first key on May 10th, for instance. The reset will be on June 10th. The next key you get after the June reset is on June 14th (because you weren't available on the 10-13th, or because you weren't lucky, or whatever). So the next reset will be on July 14th.

I'm not 100% sure about all that, it has not been confirmed, it's just my educated guess.

P.S.: is your pseudo a Wheel of Time reference?

PhDs NutsJun 6, 20163 votes

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P.S.: is your pseudo a Wheel of Time reference?

Nah, but I get that a lot.

It's more of a Night Angel Trilogy reference.

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Kinda hate these posts, a please would be nice instead of barking at Riot like they're supposed to listen to your every command, don't get me wrong it's a good idea but show some courtesy.

This is barking? It's a brainstorm. The forum addresses the community. I kept it as short as necessary to be easy to get attention.

"[I'd like Riot to] Tell us when our hextech keys reset.

Title. [There could] Either [be] a notification or [they could] just put the date of reset somewhere in the client [like they do with hextech chests pretty please :3]."

See? Totally implied =)

Jesus is SaviorJun 6, 20161 votes

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There isn't a cap, that's the thing. Every key just diminishes your chances of you getting a key. So you could, in theory, end up with .0000000000001% chance to get a key, but you can still get one.

It caps at 12 fragments (4 keys) per month.

Source:

A Rioter said there's a cap
I find all my keys in my first week, and I find NOT ONE key for the remainder of the last 3 weeks. ie: right up to my 12th fragment it barely "diminishes" at all (since I find literally ALL of them in the first week), and then after my 12th it just seemingly shuts off completely.

elon wątrobaJun 6, 20163 votes

If there is a cap, why my friend got 2 spare keys, while opening all of his boxes.

Velzard of KozJun 6, 20166 votes

A Rioter said there's a cap

Where? I heard for change there's no cap, just strongly lowering chance that resets.

DeathBurstJun 6, 20162 votes

Can confirm I read the same thing, multiple times.

the Anarchit3chtJun 7, 20162 votes

There's a major problem with your sources.

1.) Link me to said post. Because from my knowledge I can distinctly recall them saying nothing about a hard cap.

2.) Anecdotal evidence means literally NOTHING when it comes to an argument.

Jesus is SaviorJun 7, 20162 votes

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There's a major problem with your sources.

1.) Link me to said post. Because from my knowledge I can distinctly recall them saying nothing about a hard cap.

2.) Anecdotal evidence means literally NOTHING when it comes to an argument.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/bug-report/rJ4rQmHA-after-getting-4-chests-key-fragments-no-longer-seem-to-drop-for-a-lot-of-people?comment=000600050002

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We purposefully set the key and chest limit the same, if you earn your free chests and keys and you're done - cool

MÖRTIMERJun 6, 20161 votes

i get so many keys and no chests. its not that I dont get S ranks. its just I dont get chests. I have like 4 keys stacked up rn and no chests

ElikainJun 6, 20161 votes

Maybe your'e not playing on a Hextech enabled queue. It's related to Champion Mastery (because of grades) and ARAM or TT don't have it yet. Or maybe you're just restricted in some way but then i don't know why would you still be earning keys.

TheSlogsJun 6, 20162 votes

It's more likely because he is a one or two trick pony - the system really punishes those people, because you are limited to one box per champion per season.

MÖRTIMERJun 6, 20161 votes

LOL I think thats what it is. Not because I am a one trick pony, but just cause I have chests for pretty much all my champs I play frequently, which is about 30. Guess I better start getting better at support and Top

ElikainJun 6, 20162 votes

Well, here's how it works: you can only earn one chest per champion, per season. That means champions who have golden borders (under Profile -> Champions tab) can't earn any more chests in S6.

DeathBurstJun 6, 20162 votes

There's something fishy here. You managed to collect 30 chests? Is that even possible? I don't think so, it would mean the Hextech system is out since at least 26 weeks, and I can't remember the exact date, but it's less than 6 months.

And then, you want us to believe that on top of these 30 chests, you got 34 keys, and you still have 4 keys left with no chest?

I'm not saying you're lying, but check again, you must be mistaken somewhere.

maembeJun 7, 20161 votes

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i get so many keys and no chests. its not that I dont get S ranks. its just I dont get chests. I have like 4 keys stacked up rn and no chests

I also have a boatload of keys and no chests

QuindecJun 7, 20161 votes

duo que, no key drop after 40 games, and forced friendships is the reason why i gave up already. Why does riot want us to make friends, they're annoying to play with.

A LiberalJun 5, 201621 votes

Or just standardize the drop rate and stop being a little bitch :))

LankPantsJun 6, 20162 votes

This x1000. I'm sitting on ~5 chests which I can't open because I mostly play solo and solo key drop rates from about 10-20 games out from the key reset are abysmal.

SpeedphoenixJun 6, 20162 votes

the difference in drop rate when you play premades compared to playing with friends is really small don't worry

http://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-en/Y4LXAas4-hextech-crafting-key-fragment-droprate-formula

DeathBurstJun 6, 20162 votes

Source, please? I followed the news on Hextech pretty closely, and I cannot remember any statement on the difference between solo/premades, one way or another.

My Waifu VanillaJun 6, 20161 votes

I don't think there is a difference at all for keys, but for chests it is technically easier to get them in premades. The reason I don't think there is a difference for keys is because everyone in the premade is not guarenteed a key if one person gets one, unlike how it is for chests.

DeathBurstJun 6, 20162 votes

I'm pretty sure some Rioters said the key fragments droprate was increased for premade. My question was more about the "size" of the increase, because as far as I know, that has never been disclosed. But there is some increase, I'm almost definitive about it.

SpeedphoenixJun 7, 20162 votes

It was on a board post some time ago, someone gave the drop rates for the first 12 key fragments for a solo player and for a 5-man premade I don't remember the name of the post, and I can't even remember if it was on the eu or on the na boards....

EDIT: FOUND IT!!!!!! http://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-en/Y4LXAas4-hextech-crafting-key-fragment-droprate-formula

DeathBurstJun 7, 20162 votes

Thanks for the link, I appreciate the effort. It's strange that this has been disclosed on EUW and not here on NA, or at least I didn't see it.

SpeedphoenixJun 7, 20161 votes

EU>NA :p

DeathBurstJun 7, 20162 votes

Well, look right to my pseudo, you're preaching to the choir. ;)

But objectively, the Devs are as far as I know based in NA and logically much more active on this forum. Even if this was more or less a leak, I still find it strange that the leak happened in EU.

SpeedphoenixJun 7, 20161 votes

there are many interesting things you can find on the eu boards that would simply get downvoted here, and also, many people theink that you can't post on the na boards without an account on the na server

MonkeyMadnessJun 6, 201618 votes

Would be spectacular if they did this. Too bad you voiced it in forums though, now they are guaranteed not to do it, lest it hurt their pride.

SaiannaJun 6, 20165 votes

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Lack of clarity is a problem.

It was since BETA. I highly doubt anything will happen unless you collect at least 10% of playing playerbase and go on some kind of strike. Other way there is no point in even trying, cause Riot is as deaf as they come.

Sariat1Jun 6, 20164 votes

Seriously though, I'll get 6 keys in a row then I won't get any more for a month. Riot needs to fix both their generation rates as well as give us a reset counter.

the Anarchit3chtJun 6, 20163 votes

It resets on a monthly basis and you could theoretically never stop getting keys in any given time period, the chance just gets smaller and smaller. IF you bust out 6 keys at the beginning of the month, you're likely not going to get anymore for the rest of the month unless you literally never get off.

Jesus is SaviorJun 6, 20162 votes

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It resets on a monthly basis and you could theoretically never stop getting keys in any given time period, the chance just gets smaller and smaller. IF you bust out 6 keys at the beginning of the month, you're likely not going to get anymore for the rest of the month unless you literally never get off.

As I said in my previous post: it is a hard cap, not a soft cap. Once you get 4 keys you won't find another fragment.

MonkeyMadnessJun 6, 20161 votes

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As I said in my previous post: it is a hard cap, not a soft cap. Once you get 4 keys you won't find another fragment.

Is that new? I've definitely gotten WAY more than 4 keys in a 30 day period...

Jesus is SaviorJun 6, 20162 votes

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Is that new? I've definitely gotten WAY more than 4 keys in a 30 day period...

Did you accidentally forget to keep track of the reset date? Because I generally get all my fragments in the first week, and then never find another one for the remaining 3 weeks even though I play hundreds of games. It always caps out at 4 keys (12 fragments).

Baron of BreadJun 5, 20162 votes

Your keys reset? No wonder I haven't gotten any recently.

lolchemyJun 5, 20162 votes

I haven't gotten one in weeks either

ChaoticPineconeJun 6, 201611 votes

Every month. Then after the reset, every key you get lowers your chance to get another until the odds of getting one is practically zero.

RottedApplesJun 5, 20162 votes

it resets about the middle of the month i think. somewhere around the 14th/15th.

AeszarckJun 6, 20161 votes

It is a thirty day cycle that starts once you play your first match. Say you played your first match after the debut of Hextech Crafting on the first of some month. Your cycle will restart on the thirty-first if you play a match that day. It will restart on the first of the next month if you didn't play a match on the thirty-first.

Because you think your chances reset around the fourteenth or fifteenth, you probably started your cycle then.

######I hope this makes sense.

PhDs NutsJun 6, 20162 votes

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It is a thirty day cycle that starts once you play your first match. Say you played your first match after the debut of Hextech Crafting on the first of some month. Your cycle will restart on the thirty-first if you play a match that day. It will restart on the first of the next month if you didn't play a match on the thirty-first.

Because you think your chances reset around the fourteenth or fifteenth, you probably started your cycle then.

######I hope this makes sense.

That's the point, though. None of that is clear. "Which day of the month did you start playing after hextech crafting was released?" is a ridiculous question to have to remember the answer to, several months after the fact, in order to track a very large subsection of the game client which could easily just be integrated:

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CarameI FrappeJun 5, 20162 votes

^^^^

Riot please. This would really help with my anxiety because I work hard getting these >_> ... even though they're randomly dropped until refreshment.

TNHA BaritoneJun 6, 20162 votes

I've been keeping track and mines is somewhere around the 14th.

DemainaNyxJun 6, 20162 votes

Would love more info on this. I tend to get a ton of keys all at once and then it will be weeks before I see my next. At least with chests I know why I'm not getting them, even if they just said something like "you have a 30%/20%/10%/5%/2% chance of getting a key on win" that would at least give me some information to know not to expect to see them any time soon.

Courrpted PhoeniJun 6, 20162 votes

Yup the only way i can tell if it coming up if my friend starts receiving but before that i have no idea, will you guys please add a timer like the chest?!?!?!

LuxannaVeritasJun 6, 20161 votes

Found it!

If you search "LOL Hextech Crafting Guide" in Google you should see a link that goes to Riot Support. It states there that key fragments reset every thirty days AFTER gaining your first key shard.

Hope that helps to add some summoner 13