"You have six days to get a group of 5 together and troll with all melee"

PhDs Nuts·Oct 2, 2017·284 votes·9,369 views

And five of those days are weekdays.
And we don't have a streamlined way of finding other players. And it has to be a PvP match. And it goes directly against the strongest iteration of the bot lane meta. And you have to win.

But we don't want missions to negatively impact your games.

Edit: So there's a loophole: I knocked this mission out in 20 minutes because we were against another team trying to do the same thing, and our team was much stronger.

150 Comments

MelledoneusOct 2, 201759 votes

Little did we know Riot is actually using these missions to collect data, and they are testing the effects on game health when ADCs are not in games.

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5000000000000000Oct 2, 201714 votes

Just disable all marksmen and crit items for a few days

MelledoneusOct 2, 20179 votes

The amount of lash back from such an action might result in something akin to the mess in World War Z.

5000000000000000Oct 3, 20176 votes

True, a small indy company like Riot can't deal with the backlash of that size.

Jeddy017Oct 2, 201732 votes

"Sorry players, we disabled all marksmen due to them all conveniently dying at the same time in the lore. We also disabled all Crit items due to the holiday celebrating the birth of RNGesus. We also disable Yasuo & Tryndamere in honor of this event."

ThefrostyvikingOct 2, 201712 votes

Nooo not my Ashe :,(

Which champ am i supposed to feed assassins on if not her? I don't know how to feed assassins unless playing marksmen :(

Jeddy017Oct 2, 20178 votes

Simple, build full Ap Zed with mobi boots. Run down mid & watch ~~your account get banned.~~ the assassin get fed.

Yuri By MailOct 3, 20178 votes

item 3070 Gangplank

PhDs NutsOct 2, 201750 votes

I look forward to next season's:

"Have each member of your team show off an emote within 3 seconds of getting a kill or assist. Active only in matchmade PVP modes while wearing a purple Poro icon. 0/100"

"Get reported three times in one post-game lobby as the result of emote spam. Active only in matchmade PVP modes while wearing a Yasuo icon. 0/3"

Mighty MorteinOct 3, 20174 votes

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I look forward to next season's:

"Have each member of your team show off an emote within 3 seconds of getting a kill or assist. Active only in matchmade PVP modes while wearing a purple Poro icon. 0/100"

"Get reported three times in one post-game lobby as the result of emote spam. Active only in matchmade PVP modes while wearing a Yasuo icon. 0/3"

"Instalock a role and feed your lane in 3 games. Active only in a matchmade PVP with any icon"

PoskeOct 3, 201710 votes

"Send Shaco clone through a magical journey. He must explode exactly mid way and get atleast a triple kill with explosion"

OP Garen SupportOct 2, 201722 votes

I just lost a ranked game where the enemy 5 man premade deleted us. ADC Nasus won botlane ....

Nothing is impossible if the triple premade you get is retarded enough.

Glory ln DeathOct 3, 20177 votes

Well, when it's ADC Nasus vs Support Garen...

Packun FlowerOct 3, 201722 votes

"Because we didn't learn jack shit from the Star Guardian disaster" - Riot Games. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Velzard of KozOct 3, 20172 votes

And previous events which forced players to play on ARAM, which Riot commented was mistake because players don't like being forced out of their role OR mode, yet they still happily tangle giant portion of the mission to Classic SR. 10/10 blog.

420 gramsOct 2, 201721 votes

And if you manage to do it, here's 5 tokens aka 1.6% towards the ashe chroma/ward

Spank the FoxOct 2, 20174 votes

If you're getting the Ashe Chroma, then it doesn't matter. You'll get 700+ tickets anyways.

And you can"t get the Ashe Chroma/ward without the ticket...so I don't get your point.

ChiTenshiOct 2, 201714 votes

I just thought. Does Kayle count?

PhDs NutsOct 2, 20177 votes

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I just thought. Does count?

Probably. We were wondering that about her, too. Same for Jayce Elise

I imagine whichever champs Kayn gets red form from would count.

Mysticman89Oct 3, 20175 votes

I think kayn gets different orbs from the form swappers based on what form they're in at the time of combat.

XxxLumberJackxxXOct 2, 20175 votes

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I just thought. Does count?

Good q. Probably

Mysticman89Oct 3, 20175 votes

Kayle counts as melee for the mission.

Jayce, Elise, and Nidalee count as ranged. Theres a list of ranged champs as far as the mission is concerned in help and support.

Ionian VulpixOct 3, 20176 votes

Technically, Kayle is melee. Her E is just an auto attack enhancer. You could, in theory, play her for a full game and never once use it.

AwesomeChadOct 3, 201713 votes

Riot is stupid. How else can you justify such a dumb mission? The point of these missions is to provide players incentive to play the game more often, not piss them off.

BlåbæretOct 3, 201713 votes

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Riot is stupid. How else can you justify such a dumb mission? The point of these missions is to provide players incentive to play the game more often, not piss them off.

Well, Ghostcrawler managed pretty well to piss of a large portion of WoW's player base and managed to get a lot of people to quit permanently. No reason why he wouldn't be able to achieve the same thing here.

ROFL not LOLOct 3, 20173 votes

I keep hearing his name, what did he do that ruined world of warcraft so much? I used to play a lot but stopped with the release of WOD, but I never kept up with the developers or GM teams.

BlåbæretOct 3, 20173 votes

Well, as always, it takes more than one person to make a change, but still. His role at blizz was: _My team handles everything from mechanics to items to trade skills to achievements to UI design. _

Key word here is "mechanics". Basically he was responsible for where the game was headed in terms of complexity and difficulty. So after he was hired you saw Blizzard changing their design philosophy to "mass appeal" and "casualization". Basically they thought they could draw in more players by the means of radical simplification. The game become dumbed down and easier to get into at the cost of immersion and skill expression, viz any moron can now learn a spec's rotation in 5 minutes whereas before it took a much longer time to perfect your rotation. Catch-up mechanics are too abundant and the game is generally far too easy. Obviously this radical simplification affected PvP and destroyed the balance completely. The reason for this is that PvP was largely ignored when making these changes. There is now a complete void existing in the place of skill expression. The game is much less satisying to play than in its earlier days. As a result WoW saw a massive drop in subscriptions. In Legion it has recovered somewhat, but it's still not where it was at the peak of Wrath.

Can you give GC all the blame for where the game is now? Obviously not, but he did (seemingly) support radical simplification. It worked out poorly, and it's not a design philosophy which people want in League.

Best princess EUOct 2, 20179 votes

mordekaiser mains have 70% win rate+ in high elo while playing him in the bot lane

Malicious metal plays him bot and builds morello first item

with those missions, people might realise that some picks are extremely strong

and don't tell me "lol it's mains" there is nothing skilled about playing morde

PhDs NutsOct 2, 2017105 votes

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mordekaiser mains have 70% win rate+ in high elo while playing him in the bot lane

Malicious metal plays him bot and builds morello first item

with those missions, people might realise that some picks are extremely strong

and don't tell me "lol it's mains" there is nothing skilled about playing morde

Your last sentence can't be "and don't tell me 'lol it's mains'" when your first sentence is "mordekaiser mains have X win rate"

HalcyonDwellerOct 2, 201717 votes

Regardless, they raised a legitimate point:

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with those missions, people might realise that some picks are extremely strong

ElJanitorFrankOct 3, 201710 votes

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Regardless, they raised a legitimate point:

That's not really a legitimate point. I think it's important for people to try new things. But I also think it's important to not force new things on people by taking away their chances at certain rewards if they do not comply.

HalcyonDwellerOct 3, 201714 votes

I don't understand why people are so upset over this. It's a free quest that gives free rewards. People are simply being encouraged to try new things, I don't see how that is wrong. except maybe if it applies to ranked, it shouldn't.

Malicious MetalOct 2, 201712 votes

Even then, it's a bloody mission. Get some randoms who want to complete it too. Get a discord channel.

Chat, have fun. League is better enjoyed together!

PhoenixOfHeavenOct 2, 20171 votes

While this quest certainly dosnt make sense. I do love the idea of getting players to be able to get to know each other. Maybe change it to 'Play a game with a recently added friend' or something. Sure there's countless loopholes for that, but every loophole with that we still have with playing, and winning, with five melee's.

Malicious MetalOct 2, 20178 votes

I think what league needs more is actual community interaction beyond just getting thrown into the game with 4 other random players. I've reached the point where I don't even play Solo anymore because having a buddy with you to talk with really adds to the experience and also reduces tilt and stress.

Hell, add a "Rival" feature too for the player you've got the lowest win rate against, I'd just support anything that really helps this community come together.

WarkingeOct 2, 20176 votes

Thats not fair for players who just wanna play a game every day having fun playing his champion. I dont want to find a group of 5 to do missions.

I presonnaly just ignored the missions of Starguardians & so i'll do with these ones.

The missions was something to give more "Fun" to the game why i'm suppoed so get bored in order to find a group to do them? I just wont that's all.

Plus if there was a way a massive channel or chat to help you finding this groups i'm sure i would be pretty fun but i dont see my self after a game saying hey you wanna troll a game lul?

Dextix LTOct 3, 20174 votes

It would be better if we actually had chat rooms, you know, tools to actually get together. But we do not, and that is the problem.

rcrc0526Oct 3, 20179 votes

"These missions arent meant to harm game play"

Mysticman89Oct 2, 20176 votes

Yeah that one is pretty bleh.

I was kind maybe perhaps ok with it as simply "win a matchmade PVP game as all melee", since that leaves open the possibility to do it on TT where an all melee comp is somewhat more viable, or even randomly get it in ARAM if one just spammed enough ARAM games, but requiring a 5 man premade precludes TT, and makes it much more painful to try to get in ARAM (since if you play solo whenever throughout the week maybe fortune will favour you in any one of them, but it's much less practical to be constantly putting together a 5 man and hoping).

Still, we don't need to do it for anything meaningful. The ashe chroma/ward can't be earned for free anyway, and if you do get the pass then you'll have more than enough tokens even skipping it. Getting the ashe border can be done for free even while skipping this mission (and a few other ones likely to be anti-meta), and you wouldn't have enough left over for an orb regardless, so basically people are missing out on a little bit of blue essence by not doing it.

VilliersOct 3, 20175 votes

And I dont even fucking have 4 friends* Thanks for making me feel bad riot

Søn oƒ EchidnæOct 4, 20175 votes

I have to admit, upon Worlds Missions being released as the exclusive way to obtain the chroma for Championship Ashe, not only was I swearing up and down that I was going to get it, but I was also up to here (notions really high) with people posting hate towards the concept.

11 days later, I am now palm to face about the whole thing and eating my own words. (they taste like gravel and some other less than sanitary option)

Not only am I exasperated with gathering points towards the chromas due to this week's payout being lower than last, even with the Master Pass points, but the new mission set is single handedly crippled by that one, Melee Only 5 Man Premade Must Win mission.

There is no way in hell, outside of a custom jerk off game, that I'm going to waste people's time and troll them THAT hard, for a chroma. I'll stick with regular Championship Ashe, thanks for the not april fools laugh.

Sincerely -An idiot who initially defended this

AmetDeCryptOct 2, 20174 votes

why don't we do this. have quests be about LEARNING the game? that sounds reasonable right? let those that want to impose their own restrictions whilst the newer players aren't punished as hard.

Yura May ZingOct 3, 20174 votes

I lucked out on this mission. the enemy team had an afk, and they remade it, but it still counted as a win.

Teridax68Oct 3, 20174 votes

What is going to interest me in particular is the win rate of comps with no marksman versus comps with one. I personally quite strongly believe that marksmen as a class are overpowered relative to the others, but currently there isn't really sufficient data on this, since up until this point there have been no consistent non-marksman comps in the first place, as they are considered mandatory. This week is likely to be quite informative.

TyrekGoldenspearOct 3, 20174 votes

It was all a plan by Rito to get us to gather data for them! :O

BubblyRainbowsOct 4, 20173 votes

Have to admit. This is another mission that feels like it punishes players who aren't amazing at the game. Me and some friends tried this twice. Got stomped both games, and stomped hard. The very next game after we gave up and chose a normal team comp, we were matched up against an all-melee team and it was our turn to brutalize them because of their lack of range. I could see this mission not being too big a deal if the people on your team are very good, but for casual players like me... It's just not going to happen. Ever.

kullehhOct 3, 20171 votes

its meant for ARAM but nevermind people cant stop whining

SettDownShutUpOct 3, 20177 votes

How the hell is this quest for the one mode where you CAN'T control what you choose and have no choice but to play whatever champ you get rerolled into by the crappy system? Having an all melee team on ARAM is not only REALLY hard to get, but also nigh impossible to win with due to stacking AOE's in a tight corridor WRECKING YOUR SHIT.

CarameI FrappeOct 3, 20171 votes

What I don't get is ... why are the easier missions (Get 6 kills and / or 13 assists) worth 20 tokens while the harder ones (have a premade of 5 people using all melee) worth only 5 tokens? I mean, the logic behind this is baffling because harder missions should be worth more tokens right?

It's like Riot knew people hate these kinds of missions but instead of being fair and creative, they just lowered the reward for these awful missions which kills any motivation I have in completing said missions (i'll still complete the easier ones but my point stands).

My only question is ... why did Riot repeat their mistake after the community's outcry about the Star Guardian missions?

[sg-lux-2]

VekknaOct 3, 20173 votes

The mistake is missions existing at all. The fact that they charge for the "pass" missions and push us into participating in this horseshit is absolutely appalling.