Why are you nerfing gangplank again?

lolipopevelynn··4 votes·985 views

first nerf was fine, but nerfing him again next patch when his winrate is below average? why? especially this hard of a nerf? his barrels have to be the most balanced mechanic in this game in that there is alot of counter play to them and it takes alot of set up time to get good barrel hits off. he SHOULD be rewarded well for actualling getting off good barrel chains. so i dont understand why you nerf GP and not champs that actually need nerfing like Vayne ... i mean GP is hovering around the same damn winrate as poppy... POPPY!

Are you guys nerfing champions based on how much they are banned? because its starting to look that way.

I dont know whats been going on with the balance team lately, but they have very mixed up priorities and have been on a downward spiral with giving love taps to champions that are blatantly overpowered and taking baseball bats to champions that are average at best.

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Kledy McKledFace2 votes

caus he gets free last whisper and can crit an entire team for 1.2k dmgs ignoring armor with zone control with his barrels? Also he get free cc remover + heal + ranged powerful on-hit effect ability. Aw yeah he also has the biggest ult of the game where he can land anywhere with insane damages. Not to say he has tripple slow and even a poison!

You still wonder why he shouldnt be massively nerfed and remove some of his kits?

lolipopevelynn3 votes

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caus he gets free last whisper and can crit an entire team for 1.2k dmgs ignoring armor with zone control with his barrels? Also he get free cc remover + heal + ranged powerful on-hit effect ability. Aw yeah he also has the biggest ult of the game where he can land anywhere with insane damages. Not to say he has tripple slow and even a poison!

You still wonder why he shouldnt be massively nerfed and remove some of his kits?

you clearly never played GP and have no idea how much set up time is needed to get a good barrel off on "an entire team"... simply having a cait or jinx on ur team alone fucks up his barrel placements because of there range. the reason he is getting barrel hits off at all is because teams tend to ignore the barrels altogether instead of picking them off. its heimer turrets all over again.

at this point people are just going to revert back to playing him like old GP and just Q everything...

you cant sit there and tell me that GP is more of a problem then Darius, Vayne, Fiora, and skarner, all of which have a significantly higher win rate than he does WITH a higher ban rate. skarner in particular is sitting at 70% ban rate and they are giving him love taps... fiora also sitting at 70% ban rate because she is capable of doing %60+ MAX HEALTH true damage and she goes UNTOUCHED since her rework.

you cant fucking sit there and tell me GP is worse than those champs.

ReshiKillim1 votes

He is worse than Darius, Vayne, and Fiora. Because those three can't instantly knock off 1.2K HP in one hit. Sure, Fiora and Darius are overloaded. But they're less infuriating for me to play against than a GP.

lolipopevelynn2 votes

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He is worse than Darius, Vayne, and Fiora. Because those three can't instantly knock off 1.2K HP in one hit. Sure, Fiora and Darius are overloaded. But they're less infuriating for me to play against than a GP.

champions that can knock off 1.2k HP in one hit: Ekko Chogath Darius (he only needs to last hit someone with his ult for 200AD passive and then its dunk city)Draven VeigarAnnie Diana Nasus

if you stand on his barrels then really, you deserve to get whats coming.

Vantooth2 votes

Except that you only need 1 auto-attack on a barrel and you screw him. Which for some reason, nobody does unless they actually play GP.

luckmallory2 votes

Not sure what you mean but Poppy is completely broken. So having the same win rate as her is a plus

lolipopevelynn2 votes

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Not sure what you mean but Poppy is completely broken. So having the same win rate as her is a plus

what the actual fuck? broken in bronze 5 sure. either way, the pointn is that champions that are around poppys winrate or lower do not need nerfs and infact need either buffs or reworks. that is the point.

luckmallory1 votes

She is getting a rework because she is so broken

Also, you are silver 3. Not much difference from bronze

lolipopevelynn1 votes

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She is getting a rework because she is so broken

Also, you are silver 3. Not much difference from bronze

no one considers poppy broken with darius, vayne, garen, and fiora running around rampant. the hell did you even get that from?

luckmallory1 votes

Poppy is getting a rework because her kit is inherently broken. If she fit into a team comp well she would be permabanned. that is her problem. Being unable to die or be cc'ed for 8 seconds is by far the most toxic ult in the entire game and her passive is down right retarded. These are the reasons she is being reworked. If the game goes past 30 min and you have poppy you auto win the game.

Marthian1 votes

She was strong even in higher elos. For some time, she had the highest win rate in one of the higher elos.

Gigahappytown1 votes

nerfs are fine now nother lovertap 10% less armor pen 20 less bonus damage

Marthian1 votes

Because he was way too rewarded for landing a good barrel. It did an INSANE amount of damage, especially for being an aoe, and prior to changes, it basically did true damage as %penetration is multiplicative and the armor pen on barrels combined with passives and last whisper basically ignores all armor.

Lugg1 votes

Barrels are the most powerful ability in the game right now. It's a Yasuo ult without needing a knockup.

Earl Eulrich1 votes

they should just remove the ability to crit and slow, but make them able to work with on-hit effects and make them indestructable for opponents - so it could be used as a zoning/reliable dmg-tool without having it be seriously broken if you ever hit it. no ability should be that rewarding, no matter how hard it is to hit at times.

Calabok1 votes

GP is abnormal

Normalize his fat ass

Lovelle1 votes

I'm not really understanding the problem with GP either. As long as you avoid and/or destroy the barrels he's not that big of a deal. Most of them build pretty squishy so he's not particularly hard to kill until super late game. In comparison, Garen, Darius, Skarner are much more of a problem because they're hard to kill all game and they seem to be a threat no matter who is playing them. In comparison, at least GP has to sacrifice defense.

Also, nerf Vayne already pls. Unlike GP, she's in literally every game. If GP is unbalanced, I don't know in what world Vayne isn't. It certainly isn't this one.

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