What makes people complain about current Duskblade so much?

YumaS2Astral·8/12/2018, 8:02:55 PM·1 votes·1,433 views

I haven't seen people complain about Duskblade until now. Duskblade is an item that had three different versions.

The first was one that had flat armor pen (lethality didn't existed back then) and a passive that was like a mini-Zed ult that did damage based on a percentage of the enemy's missing health (after a delay, if you auto-attacked them) It also had nothing to do with vision, it lacked this anti-ward passive. It also had movement speed, and no cooldown reduction. Also, because the damage was delayed, you could counter it with Zhonya, and use heal/shields before the passive killed you.

The second was like the one we have now, except that the passive did true damage. However, it also had a significantly lower base damage, although it had a 200% lethality scaling. Therefore, it would only do good damage in dedicated lethality builds. It also had no cooldown reduction, and its movement speed was only out of combat.

The third, which is the current version, is a slighty modified version of the second incarnation of Duskblade. It has a significantly higher base damage, but no scaling. It also does physical damage. However, the base damage far surpasses the amount of damage that you could potentially get with old Duskblade. Also, the fact that it does physical damage doesn't matter when the target doesn't have a lot of armor to begin with. It also has cooldown reduction and no movement speed, compared to before.

People started complaining about Duskblade when this third version was introduced. This third version also proved to be a massive balance headache, forcing many champions to be balanced around the fact that it exists (see: Kha'Zix, Wukong). It was even worse before the damage nerfs, as even assassins without invisibility like Zed, and even non-assassins like Graves, had to receive compensation buffs because they were nerfed due to Duskblade.

Therefore, I must ask: Why doesn't Riot revert Duskblade to its old version? Its old versions may not have been perfect balance examples, but they have been much less of an issue than current Duskblade.

27 Comments

DuskDaUmbreon8/12/2018, 8:06:27 PM6 votes

The old version wasn't healthy at all, either, though.

The problem with all three is that they all did too much damage.

Remove the damage passive. Buff the AD or vision passive to compensate if you must, but remove the damage passive. It's too much extra unmissable damage, and always has been.

420 grams8/12/2018, 8:13:59 PM3 votes

It gives a lot damage (people don't like power creep) and it gives the best vision control in the game.

HaIlMonitor8/12/2018, 8:50:25 PM1 votes

Its just an easy escape goat for people to blame something.

Its supposed to be an assassin item but in the top 15 on plat + there are 2 Assassins (who everyone acts like they are the only problem), 2 ADC's that build it... So 4 champs.....

I am imbatween swapping to being a mage main, but the other 11 champs 8 are AP champs (9 if you count nami) and 3 are AP assassin. Like to be honest, I don't think Duskblade is busted otherwise the top end would have WAY more champs up there.

Basically, not sure why people blame it. I would say its because people play like monkeys and then get mad because a 5-0 ADC assassin shits on them. Like okay?

SugeMinPikk8/12/2018, 9:03:29 PM1 votes

Probably the sound effect

30-200 is less bonus damage than stormrazor lmao

The Ecdysiast8/16/2018, 11:27:50 AM1 votes

It effectively gives those who can buy it another ability on top of their kits. And with Electrocute also acting that way, while being far more limited in its usability by other classes, there's little anyone can do to combat it.

Why people are complaining right now may be in large part due to the fact the enchanters who were keeping them safe with the updated Support items just got completely dumpstered in both their kits and items, for no real reason but to increase damage.

Sirsir8/12/2018, 8:19:57 PM1 votes

I wonder if they gave it the IE treatment, where you couldn't really rush it, if it would become more balanced

Beatrice falls8/12/2018, 8:07:59 PM1 votes

Duskblade is basically an AD DFG Death Dance is basically a better version of WoA, for AD obviously

It's just Riot stroking their penis whenever they see something AD being broken, and they won't touch it for years, until people make them realize this game became garbage (Twitch being broken for 2 entire season but who cares "LCS MASSIVE PLAYZ XD")