How do I deal with Neeko top as Renekton?

Juice·Mar 11, 2019·8 votes·6,863 views

Tell me Riot?

Why don't you consider top lane when you make these champions?

There's legitimately nothing a Renekton can do to kill a Neeko 1v1, NOTHING.

And I mean that even if Neeko is silver and the Renekton is Challenger

Unless the challenger last hits so well that after 20 minutes he can just flash and 1 shot the stupid champion, there is nothing he can do.

Renekton presses E into Neeko, neeko becomes invisible and splits gaining movement speed buff, renekton is stuck and can't even hit her with his Q , what's Renekton supposed to do ?

What a fucking bullshit, this is worse than Vladimir's pool.

Make that cancerous skill 20+ sec cd, ty

63 Comments

ll3lackbeardMar 11, 201910 votes

Ban her, dodge, get a bigger champ pool, or pray for nerfs. Good luck!

kingDeDeDariusMar 11, 20195 votes

Neeko is super annoying and abusing so many lanes rn

wolviusMar 11, 20195 votes

I hear Apex legends is good maybe play that until they fix it, cause there ain't no way to play against it only not play against it. Unless your confident that riven won't be picked if you ban neeko instead of her.

TrikzterzArmaMar 11, 20195 votes

Is this some kind of fucking joke? Is this what the community has become? So Neeko should be nerfed because you can't handle her with Renekton? You know what that is called? COUNTERPICKING. Some champs ARE by nature strong against some other champs. That's how this game works. Someone pick a champ, and you pick someone that counter that champ.

JuiceMar 11, 20191 votes

Name 1 melee champion who can deal with Neeko and name 1 champion who counters Neeko same way she counters 90% of the melees ? I'm waiting

Romans VI XXIIIMar 11, 20191 votes

Garen

Farm, rush item 3065 , she deals no damage once its finished, and a well timed W ignores her snare so you can attack her, who cares if she goes invis press E and do your best to predict where she is.

EZ LP

JuiceMar 11, 20192 votes

Garen into Neeko? Wow I wonder what could possibly go wrong in picking an immobile melee champion into a kiting poke lane bully mage?

Do you also suggest I counterpick Teemo with Garen? Also how is spirit visage gonna help exactly against botrk and guinsoo?

At least Neeko will lifesteal all your E damage, lol, am I right? That is, if you can reach her to begin with. I love coming on these forums tbh

Romans VI XXIIIMar 12, 20191 votes

Friend me. I'll play Garen, you play Neeko.

First to 100Cs or Tower.

Garen - Ted win easy peasy

Bløød ZerøMar 11, 20191 votes

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Farm, rush , she deals no damage once its finished, and a well timed W ignores her snare so you can attack her, who cares if she goes invis press E and do your best to predict where she is.

EZ LP

Except neeko top goes on hit and not AP.

Romans VI XXIIIMar 12, 20191 votes

Except ALL neekos abilites deal magic damage and THAT is how she is a lane bully in the early game.

Bløød ZerøMar 11, 20191 votes

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Name 1 melee champion who can deal with Neeko and name 1 champion who counters Neeko same way she counters 90% of the melees ? I'm waiting

Fizz is technically melee just not a common top and counters her cus he just w q and by then shell go in his u e and then land on both clones for a easy trade u can always q and e out of her roots as she applies them too and once you hit 6 as fizz you ult and it don't matter if she goes invis as long as u hit it will still punish her and let you combo easily. One thing I like to do since I know I never get ganks when I top from my jg I ask if I can last pick so I can always counter and if its neeko top I go panth or fizz.

JuiceMar 11, 20191 votes

I see, does her clone not block Fizz ulti? And I was thinking about Pantheon as well, he's my go-to pick against these ranged cancers such as Gnar / Kennen / Jayce / Teemo etc

Bløød ZerøMar 13, 20191 votes

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I see, does her clone not block Fizz ulti? And I was thinking about Pantheon as well, he's my go-to pick against these ranged cancers such as Gnar / Kennen / Jayce / Teemo etc

She is the same as LeBlanc in the clone sense if you fizz ult from a place she has no vision or if she isn't expecting it she becomes screwed since her clone won't suddenly save her from fizz ult which is latched onto the real one. Its like marking the real shaco with press the attack on adcs before he clones to know which one is real afterwards except with fizz ult it's a skillshot that has cc and high damage and an unfair ult cd. Albeit if she somehow is a god (or scripting) and clones right before or as you ult as fizz in the direction towards you the clone will run into fizz ult blocking it. But to be that insane every time fizz ults is impossible or cheating especially if she doesn't have vision in bushes.

Also yeah ranged tops are annoying and I know they are so I only play them either when I need a win and got filled top or when I wanna play a hell of a teemo game. For some reason I own all but one of his skins, I get so many of them from hextech chests. Same with trist skins and ziggs hmm godamn yordles.

Bløød ZerøMar 11, 20191 votes

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Is this some kind of fucking joke? Is this what the community has become? So Neeko should be nerfed because you can't handle her with Renekton? You know what that is called? COUNTERPICKING. Some champs ARE by nature strong against some other champs. That's how this game works. Someone pick a champ, and you pick someone that counter that champ.

There is a difference between being counterpicked hard and straight up not being able to lane at all against a pick. Like take for example Vlad is supposed to be a big counter to Fizz, Zed and Yas Cus pool alone but all those champs can win if they just wait it out and roam. All those champs can still safely farm, push waves and last hit at the very least despite Vlad being aids for all of them. Renek and a while bunch of other champs can't even get near their own minion wave against a neeko on hit top.

AR URFMar 11, 20194 votes

I got slapped by a renekton once as neeko. I don't play him, so I don't know his abilities. All I know was that he dashed through a minion, stunned me, auto attacked me, and dashed away. And repeated till he was able to kill me. At level 6+ when he was fed, he'd just dash, stun, auto attack, ult, auto attack abilities etc.

OtterlyLostMar 11, 20193 votes

This pretty much. You beat Neeko and any ranged champion top by hard core engaging on them at level 3. Theres next to nothing they can honestly do about it. Get mercs and run her down. ._. And let the wave sit on your side while you freeze because chances are your jungler will be there soon.

JuiceMar 11, 20192 votes

So to beat her 1v1 I have to engage at her everytime my E is off cooldown while also freezing and duoing with my jungler?

In other words impossible? Nice, thank you.

OtterlyLostMar 11, 20193 votes

You can do either. Considering many people at higher elos play melee into ranged match up just fine fairly regularly, maybe you should see what they do. For the most part, what I see is they just run them down because they have lower base stats and defenses and limited means of escaping. They also freeze the wave outside of the tower to force them to over extend for the jungler to gank. They also also build for their lane; are they getting bullied by an AD Champion? Better get tabi. Are they getting kited and CC'd by an AP champion? OH look, there's a boot for that too called Merc treads.

PlsBuffMyMainMar 11, 20191 votes

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So to beat her 1v1 I have to engage at her everytime my E is off cooldown while also freezing and duoing with my jungler?

In other words impossible? Nice, thank you.

In other words, hard matchups exist where you can't do anything?

JuiceMar 11, 20191 votes

Okay tell me Neeko's hard match ups where she can't do anything?

catxaxcombsMar 11, 20191 votes

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I got slapped by a renekton once as neeko. I don't play him, so I don't know his abilities. All I know was that he dashed through a minion, stunned me, auto attacked me, and dashed away. And repeated till he was able to kill me. At level 6+ when he was fed, he'd just dash, stun, auto attack, ult, auto attack abilities etc.

This is how you deal with her. Her W isn't a dash or anything. Wait till you have empowered Q and neeko has blown her E. You have about 9 seconds to E in Q and E out. Empowered Q damages both clone and champ. Then if she stays. W her if not E dash out. Rinse and repeat. That is basically what you so against any ranged champ. If AA poke is harsh try playing under tower and buy life steal first. Honestly I'd deal with a neeko 10 times over a mother fucking Quinn. That fucking champion is bullshit top. But the same applies to them.

SlynessMar 11, 20194 votes

You know it's really bad when even Renekton can't out burst a squishy.

IllabetheMar 11, 20194 votes

Tell you what: Tell everyone else how to top Versus Renekton when playing one of the champions he absolutely counters.

News Flash: this is how league is designed. Play a passive lane and don't let her poke you. Bring the fight under your turret and wait for a jungler.

JuiceMar 11, 20192 votes

Name 1 champion and I'll tell you how to beat Renekton with him

There is no champion Renekton "absolutely" counters in this game

IllabetheMar 11, 20191 votes

TahmKench Trundle Urgot

JuiceMar 11, 20192 votes

Tahm Kench destroys renekton. His early game is even stronger than Renek's, and he can just run Renekton down or survive him and then outscale him. Are you serious? You can literally 1 shot Renekton at lv3 with a couple autos, Q, W and ignite

When he E, throw your Q to slow him and then just follow him and maul him.

Trundle is even easier, lol, when he E into you prepare your Q to lower his AD instantly, at lv6 there is no way in hell Renekton can ever fight you, your ulti just destroys him

Urgot with the recent nerfs can't really deal with anyone atm

Rush tabi and a doran shield in all these match ups

I thought you'd tell me someone Renekton actually counters lol like Riven or Yasuo

IllabetheMar 11, 20191 votes

You just proved you're talking out your rear.

http://matchup.gg/matchup/Renekton/Trundle/TOP 77.6% Lane win rate. http://matchup.gg/matchup/Renekton/TahmKench/TOP 68% Lane win rate. http://matchup.gg/matchup/Renekton/Urgot/TOP 76.2% Lane win rate.

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Renekton/

Renek wins 55%+ overall versus these champs.

JuiceMar 11, 20191 votes

Renekton is an AOE farming machine, he is way easier to gain CS advantage with using tiamat + aoe wave clear, he also sets up ganks easier and he is way more popular than any of those 3 champions, so we can assume the player playing renekton has way more games on renekton than the players playing tahm / trundle / urgot

Don't take statistics at face value, use logic and think about them

IllabetheMar 11, 20191 votes

Renekton Average games played: 5.71 https://champion.gg/champion/Renekton/Top? Tahm Average games played: 4.49 https://champion.gg/champion/TahmKench/Support? Trundle Average games; 5.75 Urgot Average games: 3.83

IllabetheMar 11, 20192 votes

XElite109Mar 11, 20191 votes

How do you deal with ten as wukong

JuiceMar 11, 20191 votes

How do you deal with anything as Wukong?

Don't pick a champion that's seen nothing but nerfs and wonder how to deal with a lane bully

But anyway a good Wukong will destroy a bad Renekton simply with knowing how and when to trade

A good Renekton will still lose / go even with a bad Neeko

XElite109Mar 18, 20191 votes

absolutely not, rennekton out you out heals you and out stat lines you. I'm actually ranked high as a wu top lane wu player and will still lose. only time you do well into ten is if he misses all his abilities otherwise you just lose out right

GrizzlpawMar 11, 20193 votes

I can comfortably say that Renekton hard counters AurelionSol top. :P

JuiceMar 11, 20191 votes

Haha, you got me there, Asol will surely have a hard time

Bløød ZerøMar 11, 20192 votes

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Haha, you got me there, Asol will surely have a hard time

You can still win as asol tho cus u just q as renek es in and walk away if he flashes u can just ult flash as a sol. Not a way to win just survive which is basically all a sol needs to do for early.

Chibi TemplarMar 11, 20194 votes

I dont think any of you nay sayers realize just how powerful Rageblade Neeko is.

Give it a shot. You'll change your tune real quick.

Honestly though, i think its more of a problem with Rageblade rather than Neeko herself.

MakarakarnMar 11, 20194 votes

I don't play Renekton, so I couldn't tell you. However I will say this post is ironic considering the type of champion Renekton happens to be.

Frosted TipsMar 11, 20193 votes

Wait for Neeko nerfs.

Romans VI XXIIIMar 11, 20193 votes

Get Good

y0r1ckMar 11, 20192 votes

I guess your best bet would be to get as much burst as possible and then flash on her with ignite?

Bloodrage ShadowMar 11, 20192 votes

Ban her because she has next to no counters in top lane currently lol.

Quantum Obesity Mar 11, 20192 votes

With what you said here if you just have to play Renekton you could just farm and play safe take tp to gank other lanes or try to shove lane when she’s not around and try and kill the jungler. But yeah just best to ban her or just have a pocket champ for just that matchup.

Unless the challenger last hits so well that after 20 minutes he can just flash and 1 shot the stupid champion, there is nothing he can do.

Renekton presses E into Neeko, neeko becomes invisible and splits gaining movement speed buff, renekton is stuck and can't even hit her with his Q , what's Renekton supposed to do ?

What a fucking bullshit, this is worse than Vladimir's pool.

Make that cancerous skill 20+ sec cd, ty

Daddy AntsMar 11, 20192 votes

Ban her, she's broken.

BobaFlautistMar 11, 20191 votes

I mean that's pretty irritating but how is it different from any other ranged champ top with good kiting? Vayne Jayce Lissandra

JuiceMar 11, 20191 votes

Because those don't become invisible before lv6, all 3 of them can be poked down and all inned with a flash and ignite, not Neeko, she can dodge any poke

BobaFlautistMar 11, 20191 votes

How do you poke those champions with Renekton that doesn't work with Neeko? I would imagine dash->Q, but any of those can pretty easily avoid that and Vayne/Jaycee will probably kill you if you double-dash and fail to stick to them