Veigar Talk
I want to just say "STFU" but that is very broad, is unclear, and leaves no room for discussion, not to mention very closed minded.
Honestly you people need to realize what the hell balancing is for and as much as having a champion remain enjoyable for the user balancing is also about having the champion enjoyable when playing against that champion as well. For Veigar they did try to fix the issues of instant stun since that is not fun to play against and as a long standing Veigar main I fully knew Veigar needed to be dealt with with all his point and clicks and instant long duration stun, but the stun duration was not so long that it could get nerfed and the cooldown was not so short that that needed a nerf either, but something needed to be done with the spell in terms of balancing and Riot for the most part did a very good job with this and ended up buffing it quite nicely while fixing its core fundamental issues of being a poor spell when against it (now if only they deal with champions like Katarina, Irelia, Leblanc, and Fizz who has high mobility, high damage, and little to no counter play at all and Irelia case she just has everything but I digress).
Something I do need to mention is that I really do enjoy Veigar's post changes, once Baleful Strike's range has been increased slightly it will make him feel a a lot better for that spell in particular because right now the spell does feel it comes just shy of your target in a lot of scenarios. For Event Horizon's delay, just get used to it, I adapted to it very well probably because of my long time mastery on Veigar, but overall just use the spell as a trap even if you are only using it to set up plays for your teammates (as a support Veigar this is great) or saving an ally and if you have champions like an Orianna, Wukong, Amumu, Galio, Jarvan, Lee Sin (kick them to get stunned), etc the spell is superior just as a trap. The spell not only has its cooldown reduced by 2 seconds but the downtime also decreased because the trap's duration went from 3 to 3.75 seconds.
Overall, be less close minded and realize both what balancing is meant to do for the game overall and directly Veigar related note get used to the changes and realize the power the tiny master of evil has. Even though I recommend him being played as a support, his mid lane play did improve greatly post changes and people honestly need to get their minds out of the bronze plated gutter, idiotic thinking, and realize that balancing is meant to you know balance the game and make it more enjoyable for people to play the game.
This has been your public service announcement! ~ Stacona
P.S. Rito pls deal with Katarina, Irelia, Leblanc, Zed, Annie, etc and the likes of these champions; it is just frustrating playing against them and I want to feel like it is a fair, skill match-up where any champion can beat any champion and not yelling "BULL SH1T" when they kill me instead of what more fair match-ups like Syndra or Karthus where if I die it is clearly both they out played me or I messed up in a logical sense, and not illogical "BULL SH1T" of Leblanc one-shotting you 2000 units away from the fog of war (not to mention you cannot even Flash to break the chains, which Flash). I don't want to be forced to play safe champions like Ziggs and use utterly max range bombs just to farm, but even playing Ziggs I want to feel like I can get in and scrap with my opponent and not being a scared, passive b1tch because these champions have too much mobility and too much damage (and even have too much damage even if they didn't have their mobility) and Annie's case she just instantly stuns you and kills you with no real way to react at all. But this post script is really just me venting my anger in random words and such...
