@Riot Upcoming marksman changes: Remove the "Lament" passive from Phantom dancer
Phantom dancer, in my opinion is a problematic and unhealthy item because one of its passives allow a select champion, who should be blatantly obvious to instantly win lane the moment he buys it due to the passive, "Lament" which grants you 12% damage reduction the moment you auto attack, or use a spell that counts as one.
This is unhealthy in that it's 12% less damage from EVERYTHING! Not just from physical or magic damage, EVERYTHING! This makes it very hard to retaliate to a
who can walk/dash through minions straight into your face (thanks to the ghost-like passive on
) as your losing an obscene amount of damage against an offensive item. It is a pure stat check
On a select few champions I feel competent against yasuo on,
I rule the lane for a while. Until he buys this single item.
As kled, yasuo's can't win the 1v1 early on, until they buy
. They buy anything else and it's up to who's better. Can I bait the windwall? The shield. Can he bait my dash and Q before engaging? But I can't out play a stat check.
As vel'koz I'm able to win the poke war and even kill him post 6, but my threatening damage turns into a tickle that yasuo and his shield shrugs off as if I'm not even there.
Yasuo has his shield, and if yasuo wants to beef up because he's struggling, he should have to invest in defensive items or weaker offensive items. There are no items that can punch through 12% damage reduction. No magic pen, lethality or % magic/armor pen/shred does anything to it. And it's movement passive is more than enough additional power.
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It is an overall nerf to yasuo, but also an overall buff to his game health. This silly item, that basically only he builds is my only beef with yasuo that makes him feel unfair. Remove this and it is once again up to the yasuo to out play me. As annoying as windwall is I don't mind it, as annoying as his shield is I can deal with it and as annoying as his ult tower safety is well I just shouldn't be stupid enough to get hit buy a Q under tower.
Very few champions will suffer from a nerf, and for the one extra that might, she has 3 other options to trade the PD for and... anecdotally, I've never seen a Sivir buy a phantom dancer since it's changes. As for gangplank, he to has 3 other options and can always opt for something actually tanky as opposed to this silly solution.
All of below are in theory based on %
pick rates from na.op.gg
Not at all:
Champions who pick phantom dancer less than every other zeal item:
Not first but behind 1 or 2 items:
Champions who pick it first often:
(only zeal GP builds)
The nerf I propose is simple, remove "Lament" from phantom dancer entirely, if any compensation buff is needed, it should be a slight cost reduction.
Thoughts? Do you agree or disagree? Would love to get a convo going
Edit: slight re think on the compensation buffs Edit 2: If you're going to downvote have the decency to explain your position.
as first item until
that's a total of 24% damage reduction from basic attacks.
1300 gold. By the time she finishes it, Top and Mid laners will have more gold.
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