[{quoted}](name=Meteor Driz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5PkbE1KF,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-05-10T01:10:36.367+0000)
There is no point in going anything but fighters and the fact that Irelia beats any other mid so easily and this works great for their team proves it.
The fact that one specific fighter is a problem means what exactly?
plenty of mid lane champs can fight her, such as Azir, Zed, Yasuo, Diana, Akali... But not the champs you play because you likely play Linestun into burst mages right?
There is no way the balance team can look anyone in the eye and say that fighter balance is working as intended.
The fact is, Mages are shitty champ design, they're inherrently gimped.
the highest skill expression a mage can have is to lane an ability without a stun or snare, but that's completely up to the enemy to make a mistake and not up the the mage to actually land said stun or snare. There are mages that require skill but basically nobody plays them because people who like champions that take skill just play assassins or fighters instead... and not because of superiority, but because of itemization being tailored towards lame ass linestun into burst mages
Lux? Brand? Xerath? Vel'Koz? Syndra? They're all the same fucking champion, almost every single mage barring
and
all rely on the same damned concept with a minor twist to spice it up. and you know what? That makes them really fucking easy to play against. Learn to identify what their magic incapacitation ability is, Don't get hit by it, then kill them because mages are a trash class.
Sure they're great in team fights, so are tanks, but tanks are also a shitty fucking class that require intense oversight in balance or else they go out of wack and no-skill 1v9, since nobody feels 'outplayed' by a malphite ult, just outstatted
but back to mages
Mages are shitty champs, they have every bit of potential to be super awesome, but they'll never be awesome because the game devs believe that mages should just be a stun into massive assured damage.
I mean, Imagine if brand was actually a pyromancer, with pools of flame, and long range flame throwers. Imagine if Ahri did more than just be a lux with more mobility and a different W (Same fucking champ, sorry). Ahri's whole lore is that she fucking sucks the emotions out of people, getting better pleasure from more extreme emotion. What about her kit reflects that? How about the part where she wants to abstain from it?
Xerath and Vel'koz could be awesome with just removal and replacement of their CC's with Adequate skills that offer something other than... y'know.
Let's compare what a mage does to get a kill vs what irelia does
Irelia, in that short window, gets off at least 2 Q's, 3 autos, a W, and an Ult
Lux gets a Q, and an R, maybe with a E under them.
Fuck mages, rework the whole lot and make them skill expressive so that I stop having to hear them all cry that people on real champions are winning against their extremely easy to predict and counter kits.