I think we need to nerf the ADC itemization changes

Jefftiffy··1 votes·468 views

It's blowing up people other than ADCs because items were made for ADCs that benefit assassin's more.

  1. item 3142 65 -> 60 AD. 45 -> 60-70s CD. You could even knock the AD down to 55 and it still be balanced because of the 20 armor pen. The average AD assassin would lose about 30-50 damage from a combo with 5 less and about 60-100 from losing 10.

  2. item 3156 55 -> 50 AD. This is supposed to be a situational bruiser item, but it's picked just because it has a very good mix of stats against AP.

  3. item 3134. Now only applies the damage buff on AAs instead of single target abilities as well. (slows down assassin burst and bruiser bursts, but doesn't defeat the purpose of the item as a farming tool and trading tool for ADCs as well as bruisers). Maybe bump its cost up by 50g but leave all items at the same value that build out of it.

  4. item 3094: now caps at 125 damage instead of 200, but can benefit from crits including against buildings.

The sad thing is, that I feel like all these were changed to benefit ADCs but they ended up working on everything else better than ADCs and it pushed a lot of champs reliant on AD burst over the edge.

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Critmaster Garen2 votes

ghostblade is not an adc item. and i wish they turned the passive back to work better on melee than ranged.

Jefftiffy1 votes

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ghostblade is not an adc item. and i wish they turned the passive back to work better on melee than ranged.

The problem is they removed an unreliable 100% damage amp (the old little bit of crit chance) into 2.5x the old AD. So it made it really broken because Riot no do math well nor factor in abilities.

ValyrianBlade1 votes

The item 3094 nerf is on the PBE (although I believe the max damage is 150).

The first 3 aren't really ADC items. They probably aren't even OP. They just look OP because the AD Assassins are all too strong right now, and for some reason Riot seems to think they need a new item to help them...

Jefftiffy1 votes

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The item 3094 nerf is on the PBE (although I believe the max damage is 150).

The first 3 aren't really ADC items. They probably aren't even OP. They just look OP because the AD Assassins are all too strong right now, and for some reason Riot seems to think they need a new item to help them...

But the thing was they redid them all during the ADC rework which means they felt they had potential and were shaped around ADCs. Ghost blade got an extra 25 AD from the old 40 I believe. Even with crits the old one could never put out as much damage as the new one because AD also goes towards abilities and the AD increase was way too much.

I stopped keeping track of the PBE for awhile so I didn't know they were passing another nerf onto Rapid Firecannon (it's still the best choice most of the time currently).

Jefftiffy1 votes

Sad thing is, I'm not sure people realize that Youmuu's has always been a broken item. Now it's just a really good reliable stat stick with a high utility active unlike the old unreliable stat stick with good utility and a decent CD on it. 45s isn't a real CD for an active with as much as an effect as it has. It would be like giving QSS a 1 minute CD or Zhonya's a 1 minute CD. Or GA a 150s CD. Combine this with all the nerfs to armor and it just makes everything buffed by the ADC rework even more OP.

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