Need tips for facing Talon.

AR URF··1 votes·262 views

It is my personal belief that talon is currently overloaded since he can pretty much crit at level 2, but many will disagree. Anyway I'm not here to make a qq please nerf thread, I just need pointers for when I'm facing him as Yasuo. To those who say "that's why you don't play him", please don't respond.

I can imagine that Yasuo is not the only champ that has trouble facing him. I mean if he can cut through my passive with his w q aa combo at level 2 and do half my hp in dmg, than there's something wrong with him IMO.

What I find with Talon is that his w spreads out so far and usually hits twice and is hard to avoid. I mean, i'll be sitting there at full hp, he'll throw his w out, do 1/4 of my hp with that alone, than do it again with like a w,q,aa,ignite combo and I'll die. Any of you have anything that works against him? The only thing I found so far is the mid/late game I'll build item 3075, so it will be more bearable to face him, but at that point he'll be at like 5/0 and will have snowballed enough to cut through that armor.

my runes are as follows: scaling armor yellow scaling magic resist blue attack speed quints and scaling attack damage reds.

Edit 1: I start item 1054. and my masteries look like this: http://imgur.com/a/fzlCb

Edit 2: This is a very recent play I did as yasuo to show you that I'm not bad at playing him https://vimeo.com/223742325 Please turn down your volume as something happened during the recording that will blow your eardrums out.

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MLDzXnRRR1 votes

Thornmail is pretty bad without other armor and hp items. Get W at lvl 2 and intercept his W, so he can't go in. Talon has way less sustained damage than Yasuo and relies on the enemies not building armor. As long as you don't die at lvl 2, you should be OK. New Talon is more like snowballer. The crit is nice, but without it you can't delete anyone like before rework and your lategame AOE is way weaker than before (old Talon could do massive dmg with his ult alone 440 + 150 % bonus AD, now is 320+ 160 % bonus AD, his W was 10 dmg less, but with better scaling). So, Talon is basically designed to be strong early now and weak later. Respect his lvl 1,2, 6 and you will be ok.

AR URF1 votes

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Thornmail is pretty bad without other armor and hp items. Get W at lvl 2 and intercept his W, so he can't go in. Talon has way less sustained damage than Yasuo and relies on the enemies not building armor. As long as you don't die at lvl 2, you should be OK. New Talon is more like snowballer. The crit is nice, but without it you can't delete anyone like before rework and your lategame AOE is way weaker than before (old Talon could do massive dmg with his ult alone 440 + 150 % bonus AD, now is 320+ 160 % bonus AD, his W was 10 dmg less, but with better scaling). So, Talon is basically designed to be strong early now and weak later. Respect his lvl 1,2, 6 and you will be ok.

I rushed tabi and went shiv, which I regretted instantly.

Alex h87211 votes

I'm a mastery 7 talon, a big mistake a lot of yasuo's make vs talon is they go over aggro, yas can play the lane super safe, can poke w/ 3rd q and all in when talon is low w/ ult, also yas W can block either half of talon's W, and if used correctly can also block nearly all of talon's ult damage.

Always build PD as your zeal item, so that anytime talon goes in you will have the upper hand in the trade from the Damage reduction, and be smart w/ your use of windwall and play safely when its down especially if he has ult up b/c if he procs his passive he can easily 1 combo yasuo even at decently high hp w/ ulty.

Yas played right can outplay him in the 1v1, and if he roams yas's waveclear is good enough to punish by taking tower. Worst case scenario you stalemate and are constantly clearing waves, but yas will outscale b/c of the consistent dmg vs burst damage factor.

Also a mid/lategame deadman's plate is gonna work better for you against talon than thornmail, the armor and HP both help against his burst plus the movement speed will help dodge the 2nd half of his W so you don't have to blow windwall for something besides his ult (it gets on a pretty low cooldown once he gets CDR)

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